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    At cosmicjay's gentle urging, I'm coming out of Lurkerville.

    Has anyone put forth the idea that the clues to find emerald #12 might be hidden on Floor 12, Floor 13, and the roof? I say that because of the drawing on the chalkboard on Floor #1, which seems to indicate that the three floors (as much as the roof can be a "floor") are connected somehow -- i.e., the grappling hook connecting 12 to 13, and the ladder drawing/arrow pointing up to the roof.

    At any rate, it'd be kind of funny if a clue to the 12 was literally staring us in the face, from the front cover of the book.

    Numbers I can see on the roof:
    The clock faces seem to be at about 5:55 and 9:35.
    Three arrows in the archery target; three blue sun chairs.
    A teeny-tiny "70" (I think? Oh my eyes!) on the bottle of sunscreen.

    Maybe? But so far, I can't find a satisfactory combo of state-interstate-mile marker that jives with all three floors.

    Anyway, hi everyone.

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    Welcome, mizclaff. I think the possible combination of the top floors for the clues to the 12 is a very good thought. It isn't leading me anywhere yet, but it's good.

    It does look like a 70 on the sunscreen with my magnifying glass. 5 hot dogs in the tray by the barbeque. They are sort of arranged like VII, with an extra partial hot dog.

    That would be 4:55, not 5:55 on the clock though.

    Someone pointed out elsewhere that the flowers, dog vase (which is a known artwork), and the keys on the 13th floor made an excellent rebus for Florida Keys, which seems too good to ignore. There has already been a number in Florida though.

    The problem with the 12th floor has always been way too many possible numbers. Adding the 13th and roof makes it worse. But, well, maybe it is supposed to be lots harder too.

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    Default Quello

    Since early on, everyone seemed to figure that P. K. Quello referred to Paul Coelho, who wrote a book called the Alchemist (he's Brazilian with no particular attachment to the US that I know of). However, bizarre as the names of other residents are, many or most seem to be combinations of real persons' names, spelt as in the book.

    The only prominent Quello in the US seems to be James H. Quello, once chairman of the FCC, alumnus of MSU, and namesake of the Quello Center at MSU. That would fit with the Mi state interpretation, but MSU is in an urban area, not near any rest stops. Again, of course the 12 might be special and not on an interstate. That would kind of bung up the Junior Deducer score cards though. Quello was born in Laurium, MI, way out on the peninsula into Lake Superior.

    Quello in Italian means "that" or "those".

    If Quello does come from Coelho, it seems there must have been a reason to change it. So, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmicjay View Post
    That would be 4:55, not 5:55 on the clock though.
    Oh, you're right! It's hard without the... well, without the numbers on the clock face. Funny, that.

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    Or the number on the clock face is simply 17...staring us right in the face!
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    Default Periodic table misdrawn

    Besides the obvious Mi, the column covered by the rope (the fourth) is strange. To the left of the rope, the entries appear to be the partially visible entries of a repetition of the 3rd column (Sc, Y, La), and to the right of the rope, the right half of what is the real fourth column of the table (Ti, Zr, Rf, Unq). The fourth column appears to be about two normal column widths.

    As previously pointed out, the rope is unusual in this picture as the one of the few things that sticks up above the plane of the slice through the building in the whole book. There is the antenna thingie that looks like III on the front cover, and the balloons on the 7th floor.

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    Default Yes, mizclaff!

    Quote Originally Posted by mizclaff View Post
    Has anyone put forth the idea that the clues to find emerald #12 might be hidden on Floor 12, Floor 13, and the roof?

    At any rate, it'd be kind of funny if a clue to the 12 was literally staring us in the face, from the front cover of the book.

    Maybe? But so far, I can't find a satisfactory combo of state-interstate-mile marker that jives with all three floors.
    Alright, your comments have lured me out as well.

    I strongly agree that the 13th floor provides clues to the 12th floor treasure. And the roof may be in the mix, too. So far, I think the 13th floor provides map-like clues to the dig site within Brooklyn. I haven't worked much with the roof yet, but I have a couple of reasons to think that we are supposed to look at "alphabet" clues on the roof. Not sure yet how that will fit with the final solve.

    I apologize if most people have already seen this on the other site, but here's a quick recap of stuff I have posted on HitContests regarding the Brooklyn theory:

    - State: the three framed images in the room next to the elevator seemed to indicate NY: Meteor + Helium + Outer Space = Clue Empire State Our Home.
    - New York MTA subway line: Q route on the yellow line (= Quello) serves Coney Island and Brooklyn.
    - One anagram led to "Rest area: A dowelled syphon pun." I felt that "a bridged draw" could be both "a draw bridge" or "an abridged drawing" which is the same things as a sketch.
    - One of the few interstate highways that crosses a drawbridge is I-278 in New York.
    - Originally, the "Century" clue in the text and in a post on the Twintig website led to Century Playground, between 1st and 3rd streets, on Coney Island.
    - I saw no marker on a tree (or other elements of the playground such as fences or playground equipment), as at other dig sites. I felt elements of the sketch (the "elevator" doors, street sign and flag pole) provided a "map" of the playground. Perhaps the sketch in the book is provided in lieu of an on-site marker?
    Some newer, revised thinking led me to take a larger view of Brooklyn instead of focusing solely on the Coney Island clues:

    -The references to "centuries" could be a way of emphasizing the number's connection to ancient Egypt. (It was stolen from "the bowels of a pharoah's tomb.") The Brooklyn Museum has a strong collection of ancient Egyptian artifacts.
    - One of the readings I played with while trying to decode the three framed pictures near the elevator on Floor 12 was "Ore + Two + Space." One anagram of this is "Rope Two Aces." In a chat on this site a few weeks ago, Doc had pointed out that the rope hanging in front of the Periodic Table blocks out some letters, and that may be significant. So I looked at the letters of the elements blocked out by the rope and found "TIZRHFRF".
    - It's our friend Fritz again! A clue from the book tour said that "Fritz is just a boy." So I took out the letters of "fritz" and substituted "just a boy".
    - Now I was working with "RHF + just a boy + two aces". I tried different interpretations of the "two aces" portion of the anagram and realized I could almost make the word "Flatbush". So I got creative (maybe too creative) and decided that the two aces were not both letters "A" or numbers "1". I decided to use an "A" and a "1" except the number would have to be a letter and the letter that looks closest to "1" is a lower-case L. (Stop here if this solution is too forced for you.)
    - What I came up with is "Flatbush or Jay." I went back to the map of Brooklyn and realized that this didn't have to refer to the area called Flatbush, it could refer to Flatbush Avenue. And there is a Jay Street nearby. In fact, these two streets are right next to exits 29 and 29a on highway 278 - the highway I had thought might be indicated by the drawbridge clue. So this clue may be telling us that you could take exit 29 or 29a to get to the "rest area" where the 12 will be found.
    - Was there another way to look at the B68 clue that might put it in context with this new line of thinking? What if I interpret B68 using the periodic table? "B" is for Boron, and 68 is Erbium. One anagram of these words is "Run Bib Romeo".
    - On this website, I mentioned a few days ago on the 2nd floor thread that I believe "bib" means "eye" in this game.
    - Also in the TCWAF universe, when an anagram has "run" in it, I have found that it is an instruction to run a new anagram using synonyms for the words in the first solution. So "run bib romeo" means "run eye romeo". I decided to try an anagram of "oculus lover". The solution that immediately grabbed me is "Locus Louvre".
    My current thinking is that "Locus Louvre" would be "Left Bank". The trick may be to figure out where a "left bank" in Brooklyn would be. I think it may be a pun on the word "Seine". Since "seine" means "net," this could be a reference to the project underway to build a new sports arena in Brooklyn for the New Jersey Nets basketball team. (I would not have thought of this except Gus posted something in response to a comment on the "Busy? Lazy? Agoraphobic?" thread on his website regarding the numbers: "If a major sports arena is built on top of one, you will have to dig through the floor of that arena. All are welcome!")

    I have also put in some effort on the saltines clue (see Floor 2) and am turning attention again to the G-Y-R (green-yellow-red) triangular clues. There are parks called Red Hook and a "Fort Green" as well as a "Greene Playground" in Brooklyn. If we can figure out the Yellow corner of the triangle (back to the Q Yellow = Quello?), maybe we can narrow the focus for the dig site.

    And you're right about what is staring us in the face: Gus says that the rope was "right in front of my face". That has to be significant.

    This is such a complex, fascinating puzzle, isn't it?

    Oh - I almost forgot, out of almost 10,000 possibile solutions, one of many possible "Brooklyn" solves:
    Andy Warhol Brillo Keys = Brooklyn Railways Held

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    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    - Also in the TCWAF universe, when an anagram has "run" in it, I have found that it is an instruction to run a new anagram using synonyms for the words in the first solution.
    None of the solutions so far has involved an anagram.
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    Think inside the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublecross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    - Also in the TCWAF universe, when an anagram has "run" in it, I have found that it is an instruction to run a new anagram using synonyms for the words in the first solution.
    None of the solutions so far has involved an anagram.
    I followed the arrows in my solution as directed by the cover.

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    I have the solution for this floor, and I'm travelling to Dallas for a vacation on Wednesday evening. I 'might' have some time to check it out if it hasn't been claimed by then. If I don't, I'll post the solution if anyone wants to check it out.

    I'm ready to trigger the next phase of this puzzle.

    Doc

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