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    I'm wondering about the missing Zucchini again, and if the point is to reduce the operative alphabet down to 25 letters, or even 24, if the letters I/J go together in a block, or J/K possibly, leaving out the letter Z, as missing.

    For a Playfair Cipher to work there has to be at least 5 variations on a common theme for a 5x5 grid, in this case the paisley pattern in the rug.

    I've been studying the paisley pattern, and there are a few possibilities to garner a 1-thru-5 pattern.

    There is a sufficient quantity of paisleys(?) in the rug for a Playfair code to exist.

    If a 5x5 doesn't work out, I will try to find a 1-thru-12 times two, to signify a clock, using a 24-letter alphabet.

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    In the living room there is a stack of 5 books on the round coffee table. The color of the books appear to be blue, yellow, red, green, and brown. The yellow and brown are difficult to distinguish for certain. But that would establish a Playfair scheme for the books in the study library. It could be a color key. Also, there is a pair of glasses on this table. Perhaps we're supposed to look closely at this stack of books. There are certainly enough books in the study library with these five colors to spell out a message.

    This would help explain the spectrum of colors in the bookcase in the bedroom. All the colors on one of the four shelves signify a distinct number designation 1 thru 4. An odd color would be a 5.
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    Just talking to myself here again, in the wee hours of the night/morning. Roy (Red/orange/yellow) said that the residents rearranged their apartments into a code. Travis has a lot of books, so first he rearranged his bedroom books by color, into a spectrum. Then, code established, he carefully placed the books in his study to encode the hiding place of the emerald-studded number. There are 4 shelves in the bedroom, and the spectrum seems to overlap (to my old eyes), but it's not impossible. Just difficult. Also, the number designation might not be 1 thru 5 for a standard 5x5 grid. Gotta remember that. But the important thing to keep in mind is, there is a key given here, and it's the spectrum in the book colors in the bedroom. Oh, and the Z is going to be missing from the alphabet. It might actually even be a 4 x 4. Gotta keep an open mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perchprism View Post
    I'm wondering about the missing Zucchini again, and if the point is to reduce the operative alphabet down to 25 letters, or even 24, if the letters I/J go together in a block, or J/K possibly, leaving out the letter Z, as missing.
    Hi Perchprism -
    For what it's worth, among the dozens of possible solutions for "shelf of frozen timepieces" is this:

    ENTER MISCHIEF LOPS OFF ZEE

    I don't know whether this instruction to "lop off Z" would apply to all floors, but I have been trying to connect it to the zucchini mystery. Maybe it will help you with the cypher you are pursuing.

    I've also been exploring the Periodic Table more and more. One possible solution for the zucchini might be:

    Zinc + U + C + H + I
    Zinc + Uranium + Carbon + Hydrogen + Iodine
    30 + 92 + 6 + 1 + 53

    Don't know what this could mean, but it might lead to a solution.

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    For a Playfair cipher minus the Z, colors across the top-->Blue, Orange, Yellow, Green, Red

    (1,2,3,4,5), and down:

    .....1.....2.....3.....4.....5

    1....A....B.....C....D.....E

    2....F....G....H.....I......J

    3....K....L.....M....N.....O

    4....P....Q....R.....S....T

    5....U....V....W....X....Y


    I tried taking the red book on the desk as the first color (Red=5) and paired it with the first book on the study shelf (Blue=1), to get 5,1 or E. This red book on the study desk has a magnifying glass on it with what appears to be an eye. So I figured it goes first.

    The next two books on the study shelf are blue and yellow (1,3) to get K. E,K in sequence doesn't appeal to me too much, so after a few more gibberish letters I'm starting over with a different color sequence, one suggested by the stack of books in the living room. But this illustrates what I'm trying to do. Shades of "A Treasure's Trove", for sure.

    And speaking of shades, it's hideously difficult to categorize these pastel water colors into definite groups. The spectrum of colors represented by the books in the bedroom bookcase suggest that several tones, tints, and shades will get the same number. I'll have to go back and review color theory.

    This'll be a trial and error exercise that might take days before either I get it right or give it up as a bad idea.

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