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    Default I like Bookkeeper's mile solve

    I think Bookkeeper on Gus's site has a good solve for the mile. The octagonal clock is 8, with both hands pointing at 1, makes 81. I like it better than mine.

    I don't like the 8 beats in one measure because there is nothing indicating that anywhere. There are 8 beets, and they can be taken as beats because of the metronome, but nothing indicating one measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmicjay View Post

    I don't like the 8 beats in one measure because there is nothing indicating that anywhere. There are 8 beets, and they can be taken as beats because of the metronome, but nothing indicating one measure.
    I'm not huge fan either. Maybe there are 8 beets, but there was no time signature on the sheet music, so there's nothing to guide us on how many beats/beets should be in one measure. 4/4 is the most common time sig, with 4 beats per measure. So by this logic, the solution to the puzzle would be 82 rather than 81. (8 beets in 2 measures.) To get 8 beats per measure you'd need a time signature of 8/8 or 8/4, both of which are pretty rare--If you're going to assume a time signature 8/8 or 8/4 is about the last thing you'd assume.

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    8 beats per measure does seem uncommon, but Gus' use of the word "agog" in his response to cosmicjay is to help us see the nature of his hint dropping. He must be referring to agogic accents pertaining to beats and measures. This may seem a stretch but his post showing the LOST LOST LOST looks like a carefully constructed hint. The tabs below look like piano keys and have an 8 per Bar look to them.

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    I've spent a lot of time researching and found there is a strong duality among what in-book clues are considered red herrings. The idea is that they play a somewhat indirect and yet supportive role.

    If anyone has put any stock in the Issac Newton circle of music notes = 7 colors in a rainbow, and you wondered why green and violet are paired again and again, then you may have wondered why the result: CG? Well, it supports the metapuzzle that informs us of the context in which we are to solve floor 12.

    So, even though this floor and others have recovered numbers, there might still be important clues awaiting discovery.

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    I think the octagonal clock and the 1 has to be how the 81 was solved. That is spot on.
    It is straightforward how 95 was solved.
    I am still iffy about the 7th representing Maryland, but I don't see another way to make it. The only other possibility would be in the top left room, there is the hamster ball and then 2 tubes that are in the position of a T. Ball-T..... but I can't find a way to logically form "more" so that it would be a rebus of Baltimore

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    Nevermind, I think I know how Maryland was supposed to be solved:

    About 2 months ago, I had what I thought was a solid solve for West Virginia. It was based on the hint about squaring a circle. That attracted my attention to the fruit/vegetable squares in the sawdust room. Each one was a different color. There are 6 colors that are predominant in this room. I assigned each one a number based on their order in the spectrum:
    1 = Red
    2 = orange
    3 = yellow
    4 = Green
    5 = Blue
    6 = purple

    So if I converted the colors to numbers, it would be 1263 (strawberry, carrot, grape, banana). However, the carrot is an oddball in that it is the only vegetable. I got to thinking that perhaps that fruits were supposed to be 1-6 and vegetables 7-12. Someone had posted that the carrots in the kitchen were laid out in such a way that it formed 8 in braille. I have NO idea if that is actually true. I assumed it was, and went on the theory that the number was supposed to be 1863. That is the year that West Virginia became a state.

    So that would mean that Delaware was not ENTIRELY a red herring. It was only half the solution. Maryland is the state between Delaware and West Virginia. It makes some sense with the theme of the floor because the state references are for a very small state and a much larger state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    8 beats per measure does seem uncommon, but Gus' use of the word "agog" in his response to cosmicjay is to help us see the nature of his hint dropping. He must be referring to agogic accents pertaining to beats and measures. This may seem a stretch but his post showing the LOST LOST LOST looks like a carefully constructed hint. The tabs below look like piano keys and have an 8 per Bar look to them.
    Why would Gus use the word AGOG in his response to cosmicjay? Is it coincidental that AGOGIC ACCENTS are a music term? I'm bringing this up to support the idea that each floor solution is based on a coherent theme. Gus is asking for solutions with plausibility. If we must have a good reasoning then what basis best fits to support our solutions?

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    Default Hope

    Asked in 9th floor thread, I chose to respond here that I remembered where the Hope reference came from. The primary layout for the 4th floor is a replica of the Hope Valley rest area in Rhode Island. There are several elements in the art that map 1-for-1 or ONTO the rest area.

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    Default Health, Fitness, and Iron

    Something I kept noticing that has to yield something to this hunt overall (despite the fact that this floors number has been found) is the rich abundance of coordinated elements.

    #1 Orange (color) is most abundant. Orange (fruit) is high in vitamin C.

    The music staff is both a 7th interval but also may be interpreted as the notes F and E (given that there is a missing line where there should be 5 lines from top of treble clef to the base, however the line at the top is the F and the line at the bottom is the E)

    FE is also the elemental symbol for IRON.

    The exercise wheel and weights along with the healthy foods in the kitchen support the health and fitness theme. Proper intake of vitamin C helps the absorption of iron.

    The Isaac Newton Color/Music wheel maps the color Orange to the musical note F and the color Violet to the note E. The color Violet is the second most significant color, implied by the bathmat and the lounger chair which have smaller elements of green.

    Perhaps this is our secondary theme: FE, Ferrous, Iron.

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    ERRATA: I said F corresponded to the color orange. That's wrong. F is yellow.

    D is Red, E is Orange, F is Yellow, etc. So I need to take a another look at things...

    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    Something I kept noticing that has to yield something to this hunt overall (despite the fact that this floors number has been found) is the rich abundance of coordinated elements.

    #1 Orange (color) is most abundant. Orange (fruit) is high in vitamin C.

    The music staff is both a 7th interval but also may be interpreted as the notes F and E (given that there is a missing line where there should be 5 lines from top of treble clef to the base, however the line at the top is the F and the line at the bottom is the E)

    FE is also the elemental symbol for IRON.

    The exercise wheel and weights along with the healthy foods in the kitchen support the health and fitness theme. Proper intake of vitamin C helps the absorption of iron.

    The Isaac Newton Color/Music wheel maps the color Orange to the musical note F and the color Violet to the note E. The color Violet is the second most significant color, implied by the bathmat and the lounger chair which have smaller elements of green.

    Perhaps this is our secondary theme: FE, Ferrous, Iron.

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