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    Default I believe this is Tennessee

    Highway 40 - the green diagonal and metal base of the big wheel look like a "4" along with the wheel itself as the "0".

    Mile - 425 - Turn the image so that the 5 in the cedar chips is right-side-up. The four water bottles, two water dishes and the 5 make 425. This is the Dandridge rest area, near Knoxville. (I notice that the four ends of the barbells, two water bottles and the five on the exercise clock could also be read as 425.)

    State - Not as clear as in other floors, but TN was the 16th state. There are 16 white piano keys (although one key is blurry - could be 17, but that would be Ohio) and the heat lamps are arranged with one in the cedar chip room and six in the main room.

    Also, from the I-40 Wikipedia entry:

    The section of Interstate 40 which runs between Memphis and Nashville is often referred to as "Music Highway".
    The Dandridge stop is not in that corridor, but it does seem like a further allusion to Montecore and Sigfried's operatic and musical theme.

    Also, the sports team, the University of Tennessee Volunteers, is nicknamed "The Big Orange," which could relate to the tubes as well as the big bag of carrots.

    Finally, Tennessee has two of (almost) everything (ee, nn, ss, ee)....

    I'm too far away to make this trip. Best of luck to the southeast Junior Deducers.

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    Default Anyone thinking NYC?

    I keep thinking about Moon River--from Breakfast at Tiffany's which is on 5th Avenue (like the 5 n the sawdust). At 5th and 95th you have a park and at 5th and 59th (Total Eclipse of the Heart lyric is "turn around") you have an entrance to Central Park--which has the nearby carousel (like the hamster wheel) and the Central Park zoo (not sure if they have tigers like the real Montecore).

    Anyone figure out what's on the little balcony?

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    Default Vermont

    Quote Originally Posted by animal painter View Post
    The state PR slogan for Vermont
    is "Small State..Big Heart"....
    Everything in this picture is a
    study of "small and big".

    There is a rest area on I-93 (from thermometer)
    at milemarker 1 (from the clock)

    Do you think this will be the magic combination?
    Anyone want to check it out for me?

    AP
    Was there already. Unless someone previously removed the marker from the tree, I didn't see anything. (I don't go so far as to look for nail holes.)

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    Default Elvis lives!

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    Highway 40 - the green diagonal and metal base of the big wheel look like a "4" along with the wheel itself as the "0".

    Mile - 425 - Turn the image so that the 5 in the cedar chips is right-side-up. The four water bottles, two water dishes and the 5 make 425. This is the Dandridge rest area, near Knoxville. (I notice that the four ends of the barbells, two water bottles and the five on the exercise clock could also be read as 425.)

    State - Not as clear as in other floors, but TN was the 16th state. There are 16 white piano keys (although one key is blurry - could be 17, but that would be Ohio) and the heat lamps are arranged with one in the cedar chip room and six in the main room.

    Also, from the I-40 Wikipedia entry:

    The section of Interstate 40 which runs between Memphis and Nashville is often referred to as "Music Highway".
    The Dandridge stop is not in that corridor, but it does seem like a further allusion to Montecore and Sigfried's operatic and musical theme.

    Also, the sports team, the University of Tennessee Volunteers, is nicknamed "The Big Orange," which could relate to the tubes as well as the big bag of carrots.

    Finally, Tennessee has two of (almost) everything (ee, nn, ss, ee)....

    I'm too far away to make this trip. Best of luck to the southeast Junior Deducers.
    I've been going back to the text to see whether clues there match up with the known outcomes in the nine successful hunts so far. I realized that the reference by Dodge and Gus to elves on this page is probably a joke about the close association between Elvis Presley and Tennessee.

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    Default Eye image

    MayorSara,
    That is a possibility for floor four...except....
    There is an "eye" image on this floor.
    (On the bathroom doorknob)
    That probably means that the location
    will be a symmetrical, double-sided rest area.
    The two rest areas for Dandridge are three
    miles apart.

    But if someone lives nearby, they may prove me wrong.
    AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillie View Post
    I keep thinking about Moon River--from Breakfast at Tiffany's which is on 5th Avenue (like the 5 n the sawdust). At 5th and 95th you have a park and at 5th and 59th (Total Eclipse of the Heart lyric is "turn around") you have an entrance to Central Park--which has the nearby carousel (like the hamster wheel) and the Central Park zoo (not sure if they have tigers like the real Montecore).

    Anyone figure out what's on the little balcony?
    I have been saying NYC from the very beginning but that was before the all the other numbers had been found at a reststop. Also, "Total Eclipse of the heart" was written by a guy from New York. The two large clocks, Grand Central Station and the Metronome are bookends for Central Park.

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    Default Tennessee! Really, really Tennessee!

    New theory. (Posted on the Floor 13 thread but expanded here.)

    Floors 12 and 4 provided clues to the same dig site. It is Floor 13 that will lead us to the 12th number. Evidence for the 12th Floor/4th Floor link:

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    I have been thinking that the image in the snapshot on the Floor 12 website, with its emphasis on the blenders, might mean, "Imagine Whirled Peas".

    Here's one possible solution:

    Imagine Whirled Peas =
    Area: Dinghies Whimple -->
    Rowboat Habit =
    Habitat or bow -->
    Abode or bend =
    Bb Adored Eon -->
    Beloved Age =
    Above Ledge.

    Seems like a clue about the area of a dig site can be found above a ledge on Floor 12.

    There are several things that could be described as being "above a ledge". The sets of test tubes around the room, the jar on the side of the chimney, or the flue itself.

    I had another clue from Floor 12 that led to "flu," and I interpreted it as a reference to the chimney flue on this floor. There are fireplaces on Floors 10 and 1, but the flues are not shown in Gus' drawings of those floors. So he made a point of including it here.

    If "flue" is the correct answer to "above ledge," the Periodic Table may represent a further solution. You can spell "flu" using the F from Fluorine (atomic number 9) and the Lu from Lutetium (71). But that spells the kind of flu that is an illness, not part of a fireplace. So you might have to do a slight anagram, using Iron (Fe, 26) and Lutetium.

    Perhaps more successful is another anagram:
    Fluorine Lutetium =
    Turnout Elf Milieu

    Remember how Dodge asks whether elves live on the 4th Floor? This clue may be telling us that the dig site for the Floor 4 solution will be at a turnout instead of a rest area. (Or maybe we will find confirmation of the Floor 12 mile somewhere on the 4th floor?) This could explain why Animal Painter started seeing Tennessee hints on this floor.

    The word "mile" has been a guide word in other anagrams, and can be pulled out of the original "whirled peas" clue as well. Here's one possible solution:

    Imagine Whirled Peas =
    Mile: A Regained Whips -->
    A Taken Back Belts =
    Backseat Blanket =
    BB A Tackles Taken -->
    A Gears Hauled =
    Area: Lead Gush

    The possible solution in the last line caught my eye because it seems to refer to the lead bars that are near a waterfall in Klobberduck's apartment. Is it telling us to relate Florida to the Floor 12 solution? Something about a pond? Maybe "tropical" is the correct response? Maybe it's telling us that community around the dig site for 12 has the word "Falls" in its name. Or maybe we need to keep going on this anagram, with synonyms for lead and falls. Lead's atomic number is 82.
    Thinking of 12 and 4 as a shared set of clues helps me to reconcile the fact that there are strong Tennessee clues on both floors, but no single, clear mile clue on the 12th floor.

    - The first anagram I ran was for: "fainted = find tea" on the 12th floor. One T would be Tennessee.

    - All the "four T's" on the 12th floor could mean "4th Floor, Tennessee" in addition to "Interstate 40".

    - That "flu" clue on 12 directed us to find a turnout (= mile) clue on the 4th floor.

    To me, it's clear that the mile clue on the 4th floor is mile 425 on I-40. I see it at least three times:

    - In the cedar chip room, if you turn the book so that the faint 5 in the chips is upright, you can make 425 out of the four water bottles, the two water dishes, and the 5 in the wood chips. (The two cardboard tubes and the hamster's exercise ball probably represent "12", hinting that we have our mile answer for floor 12.)

    - Keeping the book oriented the same way, in the exercise room, you can make 425 out of the 4-shaped orange tubes coming out of the cedar chip room, the two water bottles and the :05 on the exercise clock.

    - In the same room, reuse the 4-shaped tubes and count two segments on the tube near the barbell and five segments on the tube leading to the bathroom.

    More potential evidence for the site at Dandridge, TN: The rest area appears to be near the dammed river that is a centerpiece of the Tennessee Valley Authority's power generation system. Similarly, this floor is full of bottled up water. Even the toilet tank and the lifeguard chair overlooking the aquarium seems to support this. The donut (= hole) on the kitchen table is right next to water leaking from a water bottle. Maybe the "river" and "walk" clues I thought I was seeing refer to a river that has been slowed to a walk, not to the Riverwalk in Memphis.

    Although I think the "elves" reference alludes to Elvis, I bet you could also run some anagrams of the text that would result in a "twelve" link to the 12th Floor.

    I just realized - 12 + 4 = 16. Tennessee was the 16th state.

    I hope this is enough evidence. Now all we need is a Volunteer (lol) to go check the site!

    P.S. This was my other clue from Floor 12 leading to Flu:

    Scent of a robber in his nostrils
    Center of bib. H Salt Iron Irons.
    = I H NaCl Fe Fes
    Ache Sniffle --> flu = flue? Or is it Fluorine (9) and Lutetium (71)?

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    And let's not forget that Gus loves curses ("dammed" river)...

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    here is my shot in the dark guess.... the musical notes are DE standing for Delaware. the temp on the thermometer is 95 there is an I 95 in DE, the one and only rest stop is on mile marker 5. (from the 5 in the wood chips) anyone have contacts with the builders, to know if they found any trees with markers on them, before they all were dug up???

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    Default Pennsylvania ideas

    I have some ideas for Pennsylvania on the 4th floor.

    The fifth floor used a magic square to repeat the
    number 21 eight times to get our attention for Illinois.

    All of the doubles on the fourth floor seem to be using the
    same method of drawing attention to the number 2 for
    the second state...Pennsylvania.

    Take into consideration that there are 20 Hyw tunnels in PA,
    as well as 68 railroad tunnels..We have a "tunnel connection" here.

    There are soooo many Interstates in PA, it would be good
    to reduce the number of Hyw's to consider.

    There are two hats (with feathers) in the foyer. We have
    been thinking that the direction of the feather may denote
    the direction of the double rest area to search. (nb, sb, eb, wb)

    Both of these feathers are definitely pointing North.
    So it may mean that we have to look only at the North bound
    rest areas. This would eliminate the East/West bound Hyw's.

    This would leave us with Hyw's: 79, 81, 83, 95 and 476.
    (People have already checked out the two rest areas on I-95.)

    Counting the books on the two shelves...
    Top shelf I count 9, second shelf I count 7.
    We can use them to form 79 for a Hyw.

    Using the numbers 50 on the thermometer for a mm,
    we have a North bound rest area location in Penn....
    I-79 mm 50

    Just sharing my ideas here...
    AP

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