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    beetle...you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalbtrfly07
    Unless the pictures are fake, which I *highly* doubt they are, I can't see how this is a fake find. I know there are suspicious things going on with ATT, but I think that's their problem not the finder's of the beetle token. It seems like the process has gotten slower with the last few tokens that have been redeemed. Maybe that's just how it felt, I wanted them to post stuff right away, but I do think it seems like they have been taking their time.

    I still don't really get the whole 'missing' thing. If they aren't checking how do they know it's been missing for 30 days? And if they are checking, then why haven't they posed the beetle as missing? I have a feeling, but I could be wrong, that Stadther has some, uh, resentment towards us tweleve people posting everywhere that tokens are found before it has been officially confirmed. He has snapped at people more than once that a tokens hasn't started the vetting process yet, or whatever it is called. That may have something to do with why he is taking so long. He just doesn't like us. Doesn't make much sense, but I don't know how his mind works. For heavens sakes, I couldn't make up a book like this!

    Just my two cents.

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    crys, I saw MS talk to a person that was asking were the treasures real? and he answered loud and clear so that he wouldn't be misunderstood.
    He didn't snap at anybody.

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    Well, then,

    solve away, Zaczac, solve away

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaczac
    nobody has solved this thing...including solo and desstinko, it would have been listed as missing on ATT by now.
    why aren't you working that Bettle Puzzle?
    Hmm, I wonder.
    For the record, I don't smell bad. And I didn't solve the beetle or claim to. But you go right on ahead thinking that it's still not found.

    I don't get why you people even bother with the Beetle, when it's the Spider that really should get your blood boiling. We have a solve and photos for the Beetle, posted by the same people, and they look great to me. No true for the Spider.

    And the ATT site has been behind for this entire hunt, why would that change now?

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    Default Beetle

    I do belive these guys solved the Beetle puzzle and:
    1- Have not had the chance to make the trip ( I for one would have to request the time off of work to make a long trip) or simply don't have the funds to make the trip just yet!
    or
    2- do not have the exact location yet, but know they are very close, heck mabey they did take the trip but didn't have it narrowed down to the exact location and came back empty handed. Mabye the tree they claimed they found the token in is only where they thought it would be, so "go check the tree if you would like but you wont find a token right?"
    3- they did find it and are only taking their time to call it in- but then again, why would anyone do that?

    either way i congratulate them on their solve and am personally moving on to pook i got in way late in the game and don't have time to sit around waiting for att to post it- happyhunting
    amy n resendez

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    Default The meaning of missing

    I completely agree with Destructo.

    For those who wonder about the meaning of "missing," you may want to check out my post on the Found Tokens list for Beetle. Sorry I'm too lame to enclose a link to that post, but it's at the top now, so it shouldn't be hard to find it.

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    Default The Silence of the Spider

    Another one in the FWIW category - my thoughts on the Silence of the Spider:

    The end of a good treasure hunt brings out powerful and completely irrational behavior in otherwise smart and sensible people.

    The most powerful effect on the "non-finders" is denial - they can't believe that it's over and they didn't win. They will continue to search for some loophole that will let them win.

    The most powerful effect on the "finders" is paranoia - they can't believe that it's over and they won. They continue to search for some loophole that will make them lose.

    I've experienced both sides of this more than once and the bigger the prize, the stronger the emotions. So I would guess that the spider finder(s) will keep their lips zipped until they have redeemed or maybe even wait until the solution guide publishes their name.

    Both the paranoia and denial are laughable in retrospect and to outsiders, but that doesn't keep it from feeling real when you are feeling it.

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    Badger I agree with you 100%. Additionally, the spider finders may NOT be members of any online forum.

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    Default Spider Finders

    If the finders aren't members of a forum, more kudos to them for solving a tough puzzle on their own. I believe the paranoia is probably real -- witha prize that big, it's isn't even pathologic -- it's normal and maybe a little smart.

    But if they're members of a forum (such as the one we know is the MOST useful one....) then I think it's still a bit rude to not acknowledge the help they got from eveyone else in the forum with a post.

    Even though I haven't posted much of use, if I found Pook I'd post right away to
    1) Acknowledge those I found most heplful
    2) Let people off the hook by putting up pictures, solves, everything to prove it's true
    3) Stop people from wasting money flying around the country for nothing.

    just my 2cents...

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