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    I find posts like Lyndale's incredibly sad. They sound to me like classic schizophrenia.

    Finding "hidden patterns", secret messages, conspiracies--all point to a specific type of schizophrenic disorder. This poor guy reminded me of a very dear (old) friend of mine who is a suicide statistic now. I mourn his passing still, even though I knew him 25 years ago. His name was Ron. He was extremely attractive, very intelligent, an absolutely incredible artist--and extremely schizophrenic. As long as he took meds, he was fairly stable, but as it is with this disorder, the meds can stop working, or they work intermittently, or (more often) the afflicted person stops taking them because they 'take the edge off.' Well, yes they do.

    The 'edge' in Ron's case was a belief that he was receiving messages in the daily newspaper horoscopes. Just messages for him--and he had warnings for many people from these. He actually saw words in these horoscopes that were darker--and he could scan a hor. column and in a minute tell you which words they were--and they made sense. They always did. But they were "dire warnings." Mr. X will expire in five days--there is a transmission you need to find--your workplace is bugged.... and so on. As long as they were benign messages--the warnings, or maybe just statements about who was "watching" him--things were fine. Eventually, however, the messages got more and more arcane--the sentences didn't fit together as well as they should have, the center did not hold and the rough beast came shuffling toward Bethlehem at last...and he began to see instructions. Hurt yourself. Hurt others. Kill yourself.

    The spiral down was heartbreaking. His parents and I could only watch as it overtook him.

    One too many instructions finally led him to institutionalization, then suicide. It was a tragedy beyond anything I've felt.

    Since then, I've met several more people with schizophrenia, and they all follow similiar patterns. The fact that they see these patterns and can sound absolutely convincing about it is the most difficult thing for most people to understand. Many people I know have been taken in (especially initially) only to wonder what broke down later in the stream of information. IQ scores in schizophrenics are almost always higher than the average--they communicate their intelligence in startling and sometimes extraordinary ways.

    But the fact remains--they are ill. And they will almost always tell you they are NOT ill. And they can "prove" it, too. As for their families, oftentimes, schizophrenics are found in families--but just as often, the disease arises seemingly out of nowhere. Check out the studies of identical twins--one schiz., one normal; it's not unknown at all. And yes, often as not, the disease is not treated because the person will not acknowledge they need treatment--and will never seek it out. Most families have "quirky" people in their midst--and a lot of times, schizophrenia does not show up until a person is in their late 20's or early 30's--and then gets progressively worse as the person ages. By the time it is certain that there IS something wrong, most are adults, on their own, and not monitored. They would have to request treatment themselves--and as I've said, they don't.

    Of course, I'm not a doctor. I'm not diagnosing Lyndale. I'm only pointing out that this type of thinking is very typical of a serious illness. It's my belief that if you turn over this rock, you'll find the crawly thing under it, but that isn't possible for any of us--so best we can do is just lay this aside and shake our heads in sorrow, and go on.

    Of course there is no wall with clues in Dover. I live about 35 minutes north of Dover, and I've been there a hundred or so times. There's a pretty spooky cemetery, though--I have pictures of that. But the Vatican? the other stuff?
    uh, no. Dover's a nice little town, has a pretty good flea market--and a museum that's well-worth your time and which has a very interesting history...but it's the Ernest Warther family that made that story interesting, not the Vatican.

    That's my 2-cents--take it or leave it. I just thought I'd throw it out there.
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    hi lyndale
    wow that is very interesting about att ,i have found some of the things you talk about,like putting pictures togather i believe this to be true,but i have not done it yet,as for the money and crown i see this too in my head amazing the cash money i see it as billions or even zillions,this hunt can lead you to believe the end is near for our world,i hope not .i believe we can change what is to be.
    as for ohio dover i like it it sounds good ,i just may have to check it out.
    as for the winner dieing i hope not,it could be that they are looking for decendents of christ,i thought this for a long time not sure what is right ,but we can figure it out.
    i have seen alot in my mind on this journey and it could make you go mad if you let it.
    i do not think you are crazy just following the path is hard to do.
    i am going hunting in west virginia on the 12th of july,i believe this is wheir the devils stone is,if i find it not sure if i want anyone to know i have it,i may just hide it for safe keeping.
    so onward we go until we figure it all out.
    GOD BLESS and stay well lyndale,i will check dover out.

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    This reminds me of one of my favorite urban myths, the steam tunnel incident. Does anybody remember that one?



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    Oooooohhhhh....yeah....

    Lazlo Hollyfeld lives under my bedroom.
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    Lazlo Hollyfeld; smarter than you and me put together.

    I was thinking more of the quest for the Great Hall.

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    I'm feeling rather supper crazy right now since once again I am at a loss as to what to cook.
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    thanks for the relay of lyndale's story, rusty

    of course, he is oh so memorable from the first ATT forum

    I am happy to see that he has abandoned strong lights and cutout figures for something far more substantial like Vatican conspiracies and a brick wall in Dover, Ohio

    I started my first job in Dover, NJ...yet I feel no kinship with the postings above

    If I sound too off-putting, that is intentional...I (like shecrab) sincerely hope that this person seeks help

    wow

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    Default Hi, finally able to log on

    First let me say thank you very much to the person who posted my message for me.
    Thank you.



    I've read most of the replies. I was expecting most of what I read. I guess my question is did any bother to check out the Holden Arborteum to see if what I was saying was true or not (concerning "just" the clues mentioned)?

    I know I sound nuts and need lithium. All I can say in my defense is I only posted what I've learned from that book.

    Wish I was wrong. Believe me, I do.

    I'm on yahoo im alot in the evenings My im is lightpiercingthedark if any of you ever want to discuss what i've posted.

    Good luck to all of you.

    May God keep us all.
    Lyndale

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