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    1. On the left of the room is a 'FIREPLACE' and on the floor next to it is a lamp 'SHADE'. These are two clues that lead to the same word. The 'FIREPLACE' is literally a 'FIRE PLACE' and the SHADE is an angram: HADES. For some reason, we're being led to the word 'HADES'. Personally, I think it's the start of a word puzzle involving 'UNDER WORLD', but I don't recall seeing a globe or picture of the Earth somewhere else in the book. Do you recall one? I'll think on this some more. I'm trying not to force any answers.

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    There is a globe on the First Floor - the only thing under it is the Paisley design rug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    1. The 'FIREPLACE' is literally a 'FIRE PLACE' and the SHADE is an angram: HADES. For some reason, we're being led to the word 'HADES'. Personally, I think it's the start of a word puzzle involving 'UNDER WORLD', but I don't recall seeing a globe or picture of the Earth somewhere else in the book. Do you recall one? I'll think on this some more. I'm trying not to force any answers.

    1. Sound out the three words as a rebus: ROCK + HE + SPACE = ROCKY SPACE.

    2. ROCKY SPACE becomes SPOCK ERASE.

    This is an instruction to remove the letters in 'SPOCK' from ROCKY SPACE.

    3. The final clue on that blackboard doesn't appear to be a chemical formula. I think it's a CONSTELLATION, namely the SUMMER TRIANGLE.

    Think about that.

    'Summer'--not as a season of the year, but as 'one who sums'.

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    I am in awe of your word puzzle prowess. Nice job.

    There is a globe on the first floor, in the replica of Dodge's apartment. Not clear if there is a way to the underworld from there, although we have not yet seen what the lobby looks like. I have been noticing a motif with candles, matches, fireplaces, the kiln, etc. Maybe it all relates to your Hades theory.

    Your theory about summer being "one who sums" may be supported by something I noticed earlier today. For a clue about the "FOT" on the pinball machine on floor 11, someone directed me to the twitter feed @scharpling that had been mentioned recently on the Gus Twintig twitter feed. Scharpling recommended that his followers also follow @steplin (Scott Teplin) the illustrator of TCWAF. On the Twitter line for bio, Scott Teplin indicates "I'm a drawer." If one who draws is a drawer then, certainly, one who sums would be a summer.
    scott teplin (steplin) on Twitter

    I'm going to take a closer look at those blackboards!
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    Writerian,

    Thanks! I've spent almost zero time on any of the other floors, and that might be a big mistake on my part.

    After I posted that I got to thinking, do you think those are functioning blenders on top of the transformation machine on the twelfth floor?

    'UNDER WORLD' might transform to 'UNDER WHIRLED'.

    Still, I really don't have a good handle on all of this as yet.

    Interesting puzzles,

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    Writerian,

    Thanks! I've spent almost zero time on any of the other floors, and that might be a big mistake on my part.

    After I posted that I got to thinking, do you think those are functioning blenders on top of the transformation machine on the twelfth floor?

    'UNDER WORLD' might transform to 'UNDER WHIRLED'.

    Still, I really don't have a good handle on all of this as yet.

    Interesting puzzles,

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    Hi Doc,

    Yes they are functioning blenders, check out the clue on guswintig's website The Clock Without A Face - twelve.

    Another thought, the Paisley pattern is sometimes referred to as "whirled" so that would fit too, the globe being on the patterned paisley rug.

    Also, I've found another globe on the 10th floor, but that one is just sat on a small wooden table, which is stood on a wooden floor.

    Hope that helps .... Keep on sleuthing


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    Hi, I'm new here. I really enjoyed reading this thread. @Doc, you're brilliant. I keep looking for something big to tie everything together (like rearranging the apartments to fit into the magic square-- which doesn't add up to anything btw.) I'm realizing that there isn't one code that points to all of the clues because they probably want as many different solvers as possible. And also I shouldn't be using photoshop and 3ds max to work on this.

    I've been obsessed with the book cover, the Gus/Gene duality, why is there a lamp drawn on the first floor blackboard why?, and a color-theory about the stolen objects. The last of which was blown out of the water by fanciful stolen object sketches, available on a McSweeneys app: McSweeney's iPhone . The color of the objects is more flexible than I thought. If you have an iphone (or, like me, a badger-able friend with an iphone) and $6, you might want to check it out. I'd post them all here, but I have qualms about sharing something that the publishers would like us to pay for. That's money they need to pay their emerald-makers to make us more emeralds.

    Here's my faulty diagram and one of the app pics:


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    Writerian,

    Thanks! I've spent almost zero time on any of the other floors, and that might be a big mistake on my part.

    Interesting puzzles,

    Doc
    It seems more and more likely to me that there are vertical "pathways" (highways?) and/or motifs that we should be seeking between floors. The "out of place" items that were not reported stolen was the first clue, the ladder motif, and individual items such as the rope from 12 to 13, the fact that the roof access is not shown (but tenants clearly have roof access), the garbage chute reference in floor 2, even Bakula's statement, "That machine over there can atomize my body and send me through any wall!"

    There are a number of arrows that seem to point to a wall or to a lower or higher apartment. If you follow those arrows, they may lead along one of these "paths", directing your attention to an item in the neighboring apartment. A box with an arrow on floor 5, for instance, seems to point to an eye-shaped hole in the wall on floor 6. An arrow on a door on floor 2 may be directing us to the portrait bust (or is it the camera?) on floor 3.

    Further evidence toward the vertical paths: On 29 April, tictoc wrote on HitContests.com website:
    "So I have a theory about this one. I searched online for a highway 307. There are a couple, but I was checking out the one in TN near Chattanooga. It isn't very long, and I was looking at it and something stood out:
    google map

    Mayfield is the last name of Ida Mayfield on the 11th floor. A bit of a stretch as there isn't a connection between the floors that we know of... but look at the website:
    http://mayfieldfarmandnursery.com/
    at the top there is a picture of a cannon! (which there is one on the 10th floor drawing) and a picture of a zucchini. And look at those nice big trees. It is semi-public as they have a farmer's market.

    It seems like a little bit of a stretch, but I would check it out if I lived nearby."
    If tictoc is right, and a highway number found on floor 10 points to a location associated with floor 11, a lot of these clues could require inter-floor sleuthing. I'm not talented at creating or posting diagrams, but I am going to try to start mapping the arrows, ladders, and other "portals" that could allow access between or among floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    Hi, I'm new here. I really enjoyed reading this thread. @Doc, you're brilliant. I keep looking for something big to tie everything together (like rearranging the apartments to fit into the magic square-- which doesn't add up to anything btw.) I'm realizing that there isn't one code that points to all of the clues because they probably want as many different solvers as possible.

    I've been obsessed with the book cover, the Gus/Gene duality, why is there a lamp drawn on the first floor blackboard why?, and a color-theory about the stolen objects.
    Hi Kit -
    I'm new, too. Thanks for the pointer about the McSweeney's app. Your post was also a tipping point for me in starting to map the inter-floor or vertical maze that I think they have created for us.

    I have been wondering about the roof, too. Gus's sketch doesn't show us how the roof is accessed, so we have to figure that out. Take a look, too, at the first right-hand page inside the book, where it appears that Gus has made some informal notes and sketches. There is a picture of the roof-top clock with a big question mark inside it. We are supposed to figure out some mystery associated with the insides of the clock, I believe.

    I also think the clothesline could be a coded message: there are lots of dirty socks throughout the apartments; Quello says he can turn pigs into pants. What is the secret language of laundry?

    The roof mysteries tie into your question about the first-floor chalkboard as well. There seems to be consensus that the tree on the chalkboard is the same as the tree on the roof. To me, it looks as if something (a hamster? Bakula after he uses his shrink ray?) can be dropped into the hole on the tree and end up below - In Ternky's apartment? (Although it appears that a straight drop from the tree trunk appears to come out right in front of Ternky's front door.)

    You ask about the lamp drawn on the chalkboard - I had assumed the drawing was the urn in Ternky's apartment. I notice that this urn is the only item displayed on a red cloth. What makes it more special than his other treasures? It is also featured in one of the "scene of the crime" animated photos on the Gus Twintig website.

    I am also working with a color theory, so don't give up on that idea. My theory started when I noticed that some apartments have lemons, others have bananas. I thought yellow rubber ducks might be part of the "small, yellow object" trail, but floor 8 has both bananas and a duck, so it doesn't quite fit my nascent idea, although maybe I just need to readjust.

    Onward and upward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Last night, during my sleuthing on the twelfth floor, I happened upon three things I'd like to discuss in ascending order: a specific clue about the fireplace, a specific location found, and What Might Be Happening with the game in general.

    1. On the left of the room is a 'FIREPLACE' and on the floor next to it is a lamp 'SHADE'. These are two clues that lead to the same word. The 'FIREPLACE' is literally a 'FIRE PLACE' and the SHADE is an angram: HADES. For some reason, we're being led to the word 'HADES'. Personally, I think it's the start of a word puzzle involving 'UNDER WORLD'....

    2. Last night, I solved the entry room.... The solution involves word puzzles, and they're kinda neat once you start knowing what to do.

    3. The Blackboard: I played around with the clues on the blackboard and the oddest-looking answers popped up. I'm getting the distinct impression that this blackboard is meant to be a teaching mechanism (as is the other blackboard on another floor). These aren't specific to their respective floors, but are meant as a sort of instructions to be used for all the jewels.

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    Some 12th floor thoughts:
    A bellows hangs from the side of the fireplace, pointing below. (Get it? Bellows/below?) Guess what it points to, if you could pass through the floor? A box of ELBOWS. Get it? (6th flr Bert D'Grnp also reports and elbow injury.)

    So I think your underworld theory (as well as your anagram/spoonerism angle) is borne out in a number of ways. There is also a bellows on the first floor fireplace, pointing down. We either need to figure out what is in the lobby, or figure out what "underworld" meaning is intended.

    A footnote about the mobius loop: it could be that the rules of above and below are very loosely enforced in this building, and that the first-floor bellows points to a "below" that is not literally in the lobby.

    I don't know why it took me so long to realize that the pink donut frosting is either a byproduct of, or an ingredient in, Quello's alchemy process. The frosted donuts on each floor could be a clue that something has been transformed into something else. (Or, if your anagram approach applies, they could mean, "U Don't".) Secret note to self: If Gus is always hungry, why does he never mention the donuts scattered throughout the building?

    Regarding the 12th floor blackboard: A link for that molecule says that it can be referred to as "PAN". So I am going to look at the pans on each floor, some of which seem prominently displayed.

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    Wow! I Just noticed that the stuff on the fireplace and mantle on this floor all seem to reflect items on the blackboard: The hourglass is a sort of endless, closed loop, like the mobius strip; the molecule's nickname is "PAN" and there is a pan on the fireplace. You wrote that the three balls on the blackboard, which some took to be a molecule, were more probably a triangular constellation. Lo and behold, there are three lit candles glowing away like a little constellation on the fireplace.

    So we just need to figure out why a crystal ball is like an arrow, and a skull (connects to the busts on 13 and 3? the wig stands on 7? the head on the wall on 10?) is like a chemical formula. Also, if that is pink frosting being distilled on top of the fireplace, does it relate to that equation in the middle of the chalkboard?

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    Kit,

    Thanks, and welcome to tweleve!

    I have a 'badgerable' friend and $6, so later today....

    Like MayorSara, I thought that 'light' on the 1st floor blackboard is just an arrow pointing at an urn. It's the LADDER on that blackboard that I don't understand. Definitely looks like a point of connection to something elsewhere in the book. That tree could certainly be the one on the roof, but the KNOTHOLE that it's showing made me think 'NOT WHOLE'.

    Far and away, the biggest problem I'm having is that I don't understand the metapuzzle that's taking place. I'm trying to be careful not to work some of these word puzzles too much--once you go through too many transformations, the puzzle loses coherence and reliability.

    I spotted something obvious on the twelfth floor somewhat belatedly:

    The big set of drawers along the back of the room is a coordinates puzzle.

    Every time you change the number of rows, you have a different mini-puzzle. We will simply count the number of rows and columns for each of the sections to obtain the correct coordinate. I don't have my book at the moment, so I can't quote specific examples.

    MayorSara, I'm encouraged that you selected the same items on the fireplace as clues that I did--namely, the three items on the mantle and the three colored candles. My interpretation is a little different:

    On the mantle is HOURGLASS, CRYSTAL BALL, and SKULL.

    These three things appear to have some sort of 'time' reference: TIME, FUTURE, and PAST.

    I think it's a sort of riddle, and its answer would be ERAS.

    The three candles are RED, ORANGE, and PURPLE--or, R O P.

    Word puzzle time:

    ERAS = ERASE with its final 'E' erased.
    ROP = ROPE with its final 'E' erased.

    The answer links us to the 'ROPE' on this floor.

    The 'rope' goes to the 13th floor and the two sets of flowers. Believe it or not, I like simple, and I simplified that answer there.

    Rope links to the flowers.

    First set of flowers = 13 = M
    Second set of flowers = 9 = I

    MI = 139. It's the mile marker clue for the whole fireplace mini-puzzle.

    If this is correct, what we need from the fireplace puzzle is a state and highway to complete it.

    Which brings me back to 'UNDER WORLD'. I think it may very well be PAISLEY as originally stated in a previous post.

    PA IS LEY

    'Pennsylvania' would be the state. 'LEY' is a 'LINE'.

    So, my question to myself and to everyone else as well: Is there a simple solution to 'IS LINE' that would give us a highway?

    Doc

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