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    Mayor, to go along with one of your lines of thought, the website version of floor 13 has a "drip" faucette for its animation. JAT.

    I believe we have 12 different paths working here. Each one will have a different start and finish. There will also need to be some digging instructions in here as well. How deep? How far from an object? Crucial landmarks. I can just see you getting it right and then "CLANK," the shovel hits something...and hits it hard. Prize ruined. Also, there is sure to be a difficulty scale becuase hey, the 12 is the best of all the numbers...and the pharaohs , well one built a pyramid to protect that number.

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    Default 13th Floor - Clues for vertical maze?

    Part of the code for the 12 treasures - or for finding their paths through the vertical maze - may be the lighting pattern on the 13th floor. Some works of art are "linked" to others by overlapping pools of spotlights; others are alone; others are not spotlighted but have mounted lights over their frames. Oddly enough, I find twelve groups are "highlighted" in one of these ways:

    1. The obelisk stands alone.
    2. A Greek (?) urn, a winged serpent and a Roman portrait bust (oddly, diplayed in profile) have linked spotlights.
    3. The jade (?) sculpture (an Asian war god of some kind?) and the ancient Egyptian sculpture (Seth/Set or Thoth) overlap.
    4. The grail (?) and the four-headed dragon are linked.
    5. The Faberge egg stands alone.
    6. The giant diamond, book (an illuminated manuscript?) and vase/urn on a red cloth are linked.
    7. The necklace near the utility sink is solo.
    8. The donut is displayed as a solo piece.
    9. The Brillo pop art piece stands alone.

    Only three places on the walls of Ternky's apartment have wall-mounted light fixtures:

    10. The portrait that covered the safe (or, for the purpose of our hunt, does this lighting highlight the safe itself?)
    11. A blurry frame behind the Roman bust
    12. The large pink blobby painting, which has two lights.

    I am not confident that the wall fixtures are directing us to the last three paths we need to find all twelve treasures. Maybe the three keys on the table provide clues to the last three paths. Maybe some of the glass cases are lit internally, rounding out the twelve.

    And I'm still bothered by the large case near the entrance to the apartment that we can only glimpse from above. Is it the Ark of the Covenant? Nah, Indiana Jones fans (and Bible readers) know that has angels on top. What other famous cabinet or box from art history could we be seeing?

    The "scene of the crime" clues on the Gus Twintig website show animation for the candles on the dining table, light gleaming on the corners of two display cases (the vase and the necklace), and flickering tongues in all four mouths of the four-headed dragon. Especially if this is a fire-breathing dragon, and taken together with the spotlights, these clues seem to relate to light and/or heat. (Hmm. Recalling the heat lamps on floor 4, and matches, fireplaces, candles throughout the building....)

    The animation for the 13th floor snapshot focuses on the dripping water spigot in the bathroom - the caption is, "Something had been washed here." (Hmmm. I just noticed that there are two sinks and four shower heads in this apartment, but no on/off handles for any of them. Is that true in other apartments?)

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    I'm in agreement.

    If there are paths hiding in this book, then there should be 12 different ones. We'll probably collect the necessary coordinates along the way, perhaps by collecting the missing clues and letters as we move along the path?

    Random thoughts for the morning:

    1. What's the similarity between a ROCKET FIN (on 9th floor) and a SPATULA (on the bed on 5th floor)?

    One's a FIN, one's a FLIPPER.

    2. And EYE, a GAP in the teeth, and a MIRROR?

    EYE = 'I' = ME = MAINE

    M A I N E G A P reverse.

    PAGE N. I AM.

    3. Observation: The buildings of the cityscape on the first pages are shaped and arranged in the same fashion as the cast of characters along the bottom of the last two pages. Which is interesting.

    Thinking about beginnings and endings,

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    OK, then if I'm trying to solve the first floor, I can expect to have to go potentially to each of the 12 other floors to garner clues.

    The first floor character, Travis Pupkin, seems to be motivated by cameras, film/photographs, and fingerprints. Maybe footprints, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    On the mantle is HOURGLASS, CRYSTAL BALL, and SKULL.
    I believe that is a Vanitas.

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    Does anyone think the "digger reports" being posted on gustwintig.com may be clues/hints? The writing is very similar to Mr. Twintig's own and the details (donuts and tacos) seem oddly specific and Gus-like.

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    I think the first one was fake. The second one isn't quite as well-written, and I think it was real. Googling the Pennsylvania digger's name, you'll find his relative's(?) business in East Stroudsburg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    I think the first one was fake. The second one isn't quite as well-written, and I think it was real. Googling the Pennsylvania digger's name, you'll find his relative's(?) business in East Stroudsburg.
    I had just come to the same conclusion. The PA digger's name is listed in the white pages.

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    Gustwintig.com has just posted a downloadable "Junior Deducers Hunt Card" which confirms that each floor's puzzle leads to a State, Highway, and Mile.

    I must admit that I thought the old ladies' clue was a bit of misdirection. It certainly simplifies our solutions.

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    Default Fun with anagrams?

    I decided to really crank up the "anagram maker" websites and see whether I could uncover some hidden messages. I started by looking at resident's alibis at the time of the burglary. This didn't seem to work on some floors, however, so I also looked at words or phrases that seemed unique to that resident.

    In general, I found that most apparent solutions will require additional clues in order to be useful. (If this approach is valid at all.) Many phrases yielded more than one feasible solution. It will be important to figure out the correct answer. For instance, "bioluminescent," uttered by Krieger on the 2nd floor, could contain the phrase "loci sum ten" or "loci minus ten".

    Other caveats: Since abbreviations for some states are not recognized as words, the anagram websites might not provide clues that use an abbreviation such as KS, NY, WY or even Conn. or Fla. Also, some words, such as "gun" or "sun", come up so often that it would be easy to think there is a hidden message about 2nd Amendment Rights or sun tans hidden throughout the book. So I tried to focus on phrases that made sense or that I thought related directly to something in the book.

    Here are some that I felt might be worth follow-up:

    12 - fainted --> "find tea"

    11 - cereal boxes --> "see clear box"

    10 - sunday bath --> "a haydn bust" (I think there's one on the first floor mantle) or "by sand utah".

    9 - red handkerchief --> "He'd find her cake + r" and/or "He'd find her rake + c". There is a cake in an odd location on 12, and a rake in the middle of the floor on 7.

    8 -

    7 - sauteing --> "A gun site" or "I use tang" (true of Bakula).

    6 - talking room --> Lots of possibilities here.
    "Kilogram Ton"
    "Look man trig" (Supporting Doc's triangulation theory?)
    "Tag kiln room"
    "Milk or tang + o"
    "Argon to milk" (Maybe the Mi on the periodic table is milk, not Michigan!)
    "Marking tool"
    "Look Grant, MI." (There is a town called Grant in Michigan.)

    5 - mote of dust - "U.S. Fed motto" = In God We Trust? A hint to look at the dollar bills throughout the building?

    4 - nocturnal - Almost works as "locate urn", but it has an 'n' where an 'e' would be needed.

    3 -

    2 - paranoid - "road in PA" or "radio pan"
    saltines - "sans tile" or "ain't less" or "is at lens"
    bioluminescent
    - "mile sub one in CT" = a nautical mile?
    - "mile be in Tucson"
    - "mile isn't on cube"
    - "lemon in its cube"
    - "clue is be in Mont."
    - "clue is tomb nine"
    tarantulas
    - "atlas at urn" (maybe it's an atlas, not an illuminated manuscript under glass in Ternky's apartment)
    - "sat at lunar" (could refer to port-a-john with moon on door, 7th floor)
    - "Tulsa an art"

    1 - wooden desk - "do seek down"

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