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    I really should add up all the miles I've traveled in the course of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    I really should add up all the miles I've traveled in the course of this.
    As we say on the long hiking trails and biking across country, "It's not about the miles, it's all about the smiles!"

    I hope you had some good adventures at least.
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    If you are in or near Arkansas
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    Quote Originally Posted by tictoc
    Just received an email from McSweeney's which includes

    (And we'll give you one more enticement, a clue exclusive to this email, for your use alone—are you ready? Here it goes:
    Sometimes the answer is incorrect; sometimes incorrect is the answer.
    Now go! Hunt! Dig!
    I was looking over the old posts from Hitcontests.com.
    This was posted back in April.
    Now that we are well into the contest and 9 of the treasures found...
    What do you think it could mean?..Reference to red-herrings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by animal painter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tictoc
    Just received an email from McSweeney's which includes

    (And we'll give you one more enticement, a clue exclusive to this email, for your use alone—are you ready? Here it goes:
    Sometimes the answer is incorrect; sometimes incorrect is the answer.
    Now go! Hunt! Dig!
    I was looking over the old posts from Hitcontests.com.
    This was posted back in April.
    Now that we are well into the contest and 9 of the treasures found...
    What do you think it could mean?..Reference to red-herrings?
    AP
    I think it's definitely something to pay attention to -- it has proven to be a hint, in the case of, say, the 7th floor. The ketchup bottle with its "56 varieties" rather than 57.

    I wonder if it might apply elsewhere -- say, the molecule drawing on the 12th floor.

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    I have tried to look back over rooms that are already solved to see if we can discover any patterns that may help with the remaining puzzles. These observations may or may not prove to be valid.

    - So far, I believe there have been no S/H/M clues in rooms containing red lights. (There is a red lampshade in the room with some clues on Floor 10, but it's not a light per se.) Other red items are not barriers, but maybe red lights are stop lights, and signify that we should stop and look elsewhere? This would be a big deal on Floor 12, if it represents a "rule" about the illustrations, as there is a red light on the alchemy machine and lots of potential number clues in that room. There are also many red lights on Floors 9 and 4.

    I wish there were a matching "green light" pattern that would tell us where to look, but I didn't find a consistent one.
    - There are world globes near the mile clue on Floor 1 and the state clue on Floor 10.
    - You have to pass through an arch to get to the clues on every floor except 1. (Most doors are arches, so this may not be major news.)
    - Some but not all S/H/M clues are near water.
    - Some S/H/M clues are in straight lines, but others are in an L-shape.
    - There is a telescope aimed at the state clue on Floor 2 and a "viewmaster" near the highway clue on Floor 11. A state clue for Floor 7 is on the wall where a line is drawn to show a person where to stand and toss darts. It's possible that these and other clues are giving hints about where to look: a number of clues are framed in mirrors (Floor 3) or art. Others must be read - the ketchup bottle on Floor 10; the wall on Floor 6. All of these are things where people would stop and look, but maybe that category is too broad to be useful. (Should we be looking out the windows for clues? Those are framed and intended as places for people to look.)
    - Is there a "black and white and red all over" theme? The black and white televisions visible in several rooms seem important to me, but I don't know why. The black and white illustrations (referred to on the back cover as "faces") might also be helpful. The picture of Ida Mayfield is especially intriguing - she has pencils, a fork, a teacup and a stalk of wheat (asparagus?) in her hair.
    - There seem to be internal themes, unique to each floor, for many S/H/M clues. All of the Floor 11 clues relate to money. All of the floor 10 clues include animals. All of the Floor 8 clues are game-related. All of the Floor 6 clues are black and white. Are all of the Floor 5 clues written on paper? Floor 3: sink/kiln/cinco sound-alike words?

    On a separate note, I noticed last night some details about a variation on the spelling of "clue":

    clew
    n. 1. A ball of yarn or thread.
    2. Greek Mythology The ball of thread used by Theseus to find his way out of the labyrinth.
    3. clews The cords by which a hammock is suspended.
    4. also clue Nautical a. One of the two lower corners of a square sail.
    b. The lower aft corner of a fore-and-aft sail.
    c. A metal loop attached to the lower corner of a sail.

    tr.v. clewed, clew·ing, clews
    1. To roll or coil into a ball.
    2. also clue Nautical To raise the lower corners of (a square sail) by means of clew lines. Used with up
    clew 2
    n. & v. Chiefly British Variant of clue1.
    We have two hammocks in the book (Floors 10 and the windowsill on 4) and some sails (Floor 8, in the bathtub). Are bed sheets in the same category with sails? I'm not sure, but I believe the green things on the kitchen windowsill on Floor 11 and the bathroom floor on Floor eight may be spools for thread. Is the green ball on the bookshelf on Floor 1 a ball of yarn? These clews weren't needed yet, so they may just be extra flourishes by the illustrator.

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    Theme to floor 10 is Trophies, specifically body parts, head, ears, feet/legs.

    Floor 3, Mirrors. Ignore the Mickeys and the symbol for 5. The mirror in the entry has a reflection shaped like California and the mirror off to the side of the kitchen reflects a painting of 5 people. The mile marker of course is the mirror by the long nose.

    @Mayor Sara, I'm really surprised you posted this, because I had many of the same conclusions last night during my two beer stint while doing a full sweep of all my past findings.

    We are all very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    I have tried to look back over rooms that are already solved to see if we can discover any patterns that may help with the remaining puzzles. These observations may or may not prove to be valid.
    Another possible pattern, helped by the reply from erexere (thank you!). S/H/M clues are found in close association with "T words" on at least two floors. This fits with the 12th Floor hint "fainted = find tea", and with the in and output on the alchemy machine on that floor. The "T word" approach doesn't seem to hold for all floors, but maybe the letter changes and we should look for words starting with a different letter on the lower floors?

    On Floor 10, the S/H/M clues are found on trophy, tags, and tarantula. On Floor 11, the state clue (framed Washington) is near tags on what appears to be a pitcher of iced tea. The mile ($89.00) is on a tag on a toaster, and the highway is near televisions. Floor 8 is not as strong: clues are on (dart) toss and tomato sauce. Floor 6 could be toilet and tiles.

    I'm hopeful these T words could help us on Floors 12 and 9. 9 has a tape deck, Tardis, Tesla Coil, towels, tiles, toaster, tang. And when I went to the binary translator to see what the letter T would be in binary, it came out with the same combination of 1s and 0s that we had been interpreting as 84 on the Tesla Coil. (Did I do it wrong?)
    TRANSLATOR, BINARY

    Floor 12 has so many T things that this approach, if valid, may not help us to focus on the S/H/M clues: Table, test tubes, torte (thanks, AP!), toilet, television, t-shirts, twig, tears, towel, teacups and teabag tags. Yilloslime's recent observation about element 81, which should be Tl but is shown as Ti, could also be significant. Given the tag-located clues on Floors 10 and 11, and the "find tea" hint, maybe we should start with the teabag tags on 12 as well.

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    I was thinking the theme would be: Things that POP or go UP...like ballons, soda, and ketchUP....for floor 8.

    I can't figure out floor 1's theme and a few others still hang in the balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    I can't figure out floor 1's theme and a few others still hang in the balance.
    Baseball is part of 2 of the 3 portions of the solve. I can't fit Virginia into baseball, other than it is one of the (many) states that doesn't have a Major League Baseball team.

    Some things in the apartment also bring me to baseball:

    Notably, Travis Pupkin wears a baseball hat, and his t-shirt reads #1 FAN.

    Bedroom: The bedroom gives us the state clue. The lighthouse on the headboard is in Virginia:

    Assateague Lighthouse, Virginia at Lighthousefriends.com

    Living room: Gives us the mile. .262 is a decent batting average.

    Foyer: gives us the highway in the same "real art" (not hand drawn) method as Rosa's artwork gave us California for her solve.

    Red & white, the colors of a baseball: stripes on the flag, the Most Wanted poster and the evidence pouches in the bathroom, milk carton on the kitchen table. Also, the flag as a whole might bring us to baseball as the national pastime.

    Boy, why didn't I see all of this 2 months ago?

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