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    Perhaps the consumer should be crossing the line as well. With the exception of tron, i have seen little response from folks interested in allowing for an outside the book approach.

    With respect to the book there is clearly a seperation of layers and a consistency that demands closer inspection. The particulars that provide SHM are only the fruit whereas the questions that come out of synthesis of all the seemingly extraneous details including the text of tbhe story are the roots. I see heavy clues that stand out like a precipitate in a sweet distillation. Marcel Duchamp is a good clue that a layer of surrealism in the form of juxtaposition(s) puts us on a path worthy of Dodges acumen. The matter of Dr. Seuss' Cat in the Hat and the very specific Rosetta Stone clues must mean something. These underpinnngs are ripe for someone looking for a deeper logic challenge. I suggest we recognize these facts and then decide what to do about it as consumers.
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    erexere- I admit I am one of those who don't think the solution is outside the book. As I've said on TCWAF, the book doesn't even have a website address or any indication there is an online portion of the game. A reader wouldn't even know about the Hunt Card. I find that a pretty significant omission-readers don't even know the possibilities or whether any numbers have already been found. How unfair would it be to make the 12 absolutely unavailable to anyone without access to a computer?

    The book says that the clues needed to find all the numbers are contained in the book. Using outside sources to verify the meaning of a word or in what order the states joined the union is like checking a dictionary or encyclopedia; I think these are fair game. However, I'm not so sure the clues lead to a string of connections outside the context of the book. I have made some rather big leaps myself in some of my theories, so I'm not a "purist", but I have tried to keep my eye on things in the book, and now on things Dodge-related.

    Having said all that, I think all angles should be investigated and we each have different approaches. I like it when we all share our ideas on TCWAF and I enjoy seeing how other people are approaching this conundrum. For me right now nothing is off the table! In the book, outside the book, whatever it takes.

    I also kind of agree with Catherwood, but I guess the creator of a game has the right to decide how it is set up to unfold. I think we all feel a little abandoned and maybe even deceived; we were guided along through the magnifying glass find and then left with no direction, no clues and no idea what we are looking for. In the end, we each have to decide whether we are going to continue or not.

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    I invite you to refresh your view of this Hunt.

    The creators advertise that it is not the case that the boundaries of the hunt pertain to the book alone. Gus Twintig became live before the book's release with his first tweet on 3-1-2010. The heist was discovered and investigated on 3-21-2010. Gus published his case-files in the form of the book-object and with only a few exceptions wasn't available to prying eyes until the end of April. Information has been provided in a perfectly plain way. Twitter, Website, YouTube, and THEN the book and book tours is how this hunt has been advertised. The only trick that might be in play since the book was made available is the finding of the numbers themselves and how their artistic design might convey new information. We were teased to find Dodge from the get go only we didn't foresee the inevitable discovery of his magnifying glass wrapped in the cryptic newspaper. We seem to be continuing a discussion about the pale of the hunt when it's clear that we need to accept the information provided and then turn to the task of deciding WHAT to do with it.

    I like this excerpt from the link above, ELI:
    No, it really spiraled into madness! We wanted to make it appeal to readers in a variety of ways and on a variety of levels, and allow people to access it however they want to and that applies to age range. There are some things that are entirely there for an 8-year-old, and there are some things that are entirely there for a 38-year-old, which is the oldest age I can think of…
    Let breadcrumbs be breadcrumbs and let's get this loaf pieced back together!
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    erexere-Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying your approach is misguided or incorrect - just different than my approach; we should all welcome all angles. We each have to go where our clues lead us. Anybody's guess is as good as the next right now! There may even be many ways to reach the same solution.

    My rationale for "staying with the book" is:

    1. Even though Gus appeared prior to its release and there is a lot on TCWAF and twitter, that doesn't mean everyone who has the book has seen them, or that they are necessary to the solutions. So far, Gus's clues have prodded us in certain directions, but the answers were always right there in the book. This book is on bookshelves in bookstores across the country with no reference to anything online or "outside" the book. I feel that if it was necessary to the hunt, there would at least be the TCWAF site listed on the book. The only link shown is the McSweeney's site, and that site describes the book, saying:

    2. .... Readers must conduct their own investigations, scouring detailed illustrations for hidden clues and knotty puzzles. All your answers can be found within this book: whodunit and how . . . and where the real numbers are buried now.


    3. On the back ofthe book itself, it says: ..The clues and their locations lurk within these thirteen floors. It would be very unfair to readers to spend money on a book that doesn't provide all the necessary information to solve the puzzles within its pages.

    4. Finally, on the TCWAF site, Gus answers a question:
    Q: Is the information within the book sufficient to find the precise locations of each of the stolen emeralds or will "supplemental" information be required?
    A: It seems to me that everything you'd need to know is inside the book. That said, if any additional clues appear, they will be revealed here and at events on our recruitment tour. (I take this to mean there may be more clues revealed, but not that they are necessary to a solution).

    I think it's important for each of us to take the direction we feel is relevant-and the more theories that are tested, the more likely we are to eventually come to the solution. I am staying in the book; you are going outside the book; Sailor is trying maps; Tron is using key words and word-association; others have found locations in parks, libraries, museums, or used other gaming concepts...we all come to it with different eyes. I think it's great that we can all be so different and share our ideas. At this point I'm not as interested in finding the 12 for myself as just seeing how this all plays out!

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    Theda, I see what youre sayin and i hope my tone doesnt distract from my point. Those citeations are curious to me, because they contradict what Eli and Scott are saying in the interview I cited above. Did you click and read thed link to the May 25th article? I would attempt to explain this contradiction by their need to both publicize the book AND the hunt. All the answers are in the book, I am sure, but all the hints are not, and that is the reason for the contradiction. The book is just a book and the hunt is a layer that includes the book (explained by E.H. in the article). The stolen numbers IN the book are only visible outside the book on the website and IN the real world hands of Finders. I know for a fact that one particular finder (not Popper) has a special clue (not MayorSara either). As far as I know, they arent a poster here at tweleve and I dont know if they know what the special clue is...

    We've tracked down the missing objects. We've tracked down the burial sites of the numbers. We've focused on the man for long enough. Have we learned enough about the Residents to understand what Dodge deduced and then used as a fuzzy-weird-logic of his own design to capture and relocate the No.12?
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    I wonder if quince paste relates to Lucius Quincstius Cinncinatus...
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    Adventures and rumors: Using the rail fence cipher as a clue to look for some kind of pattern and using a clue about Rosetta Stone I found a translation that led to a webpage where 118 appears in a whole lot of places. That was the combo to Bevel's safe. It seems to me Roy Dodge has engineered this clue as a way of saying "this is it!". Im going to venture a guess Roy is a hacker or the administrator of this site, because it's a counter which should change based on a trigger, but it doesn't ever change...I've tried several times. I think this might justify planning a trip to have a closer look. Should happen in five or six weeks.
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    6823 36th Ave NW
    Seattle‎ Washington‎ 98117
    United States

    Looks like a possibility if I've been working in the wrong direction. I'm using mime + gus + (12*3 s/h/m clues) or 6 + 823 + 36. There is a cool statue there looking out at the sea.
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    Well im not right about the web page. The counter changed.
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