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    Default How is the hunt for the 12 different?

    Based on the lack of recent posts, I'd say that people seem to be stumped. Maybe this thread will encourage everyone to post some (apparently) far-fetched ideas that will provide inspiration for others.

    There seems to be some consensus that a lot of the perceived "rules" were undermined by the location of the 6: it was at a turnout instead of a rest area, the site was overgrown instead of maintained, the mile clue in the illustration seemed imprecise, the marker on the tree differed from markers found at other dig sites, etc.

    Although it's hard to say whether a differing, more subtle marker may have fooled junior deducers who have searched s/h/m coordinates based on Floor 9 clues, the lack of success in the "obvious" places may provide further evidence that this hunt will require a fresh and different approach.

    What are the things that seem like bedrock requirements for the last solution? Based on the back cover and on a post from Gus, I think we can count on the last number being buried in the ground. The last paragraph of the text says, "study the pictures," so it does seem as if the solution will have to be included in an illustration in some form. Any other "rules" of which we can be sure?

    Will the last dig site still be located along an Interstate?

    Post your theories and strategies in this thread.

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    Default I'll offer this wacky idea

    I have been trying to bring everything back to the book, but that doesn't mean that I'm ignoring evidence that might point me to the right place in the book.

    Since it does seem that the hunt was designed to leave the 12 until all the other numbers had been found, I tried to think whether there was any information that was unavailable (or incomplete) until the first 11 numbers were found. One possibility is that the state, highway and mile solutions from the first 11 dig sites are needed to identify the 12th dig site.

    Possible approaches include working with the letters of the state names, or turning the Interstate numbers into letters:

    VA TX CA MD IL OH IN CT FL WA AR

    Interstate letters:
    81 HA
    35 CE
    5 E
    95 IE
    39 CI
    76 GF
    80 H
    95 IE

    75 GE
    90 I
    40 D
    All together: haceeiecigfhiegeid
    Edifice? Hide face?

    If you choose to play with anagrams, keep in mind that the X or other letters might be used in a novel way. For instance, in retrospect, I felt I was seeing a cue for the Connecticut solution in these phrases from the Floor 13 text:


    Not exactly he said looking at his shoes. It was noon. Noon exactly

    Eight said Conn(e)cti(cu)t: look on a slant. A toy axis. Hole shown as X on eye.

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    It hasn't helped that attention to the hunt has diminished because all the lesser numbers have been found. The 12 is rumored to more valuable than all others combined and so I'd expect a wave of renewed focus from folks.

    I've already spread a number of wild ideas throughout the forums but your approach is an essential place to start and I agree that people are stumped and shocked about the circumstances of the 6.

    I think of the 6 as a pebble in the path and expected something sinister in the final stretch, because:

    1) The curse is still a factor, meaning the 12's theft was repeated
    2) Everything about the 12 seems bigger = bigger tree
    3) The secondary thief is on an even numbered floor, because the odd floors having donuts were already checked.
    4) Instead of using objects in a single apartment as clues to its location, the thief used floorish themes in a combination (three floors) to choose the ideal place of relocation ( i.e. Nothing had to be moved around or altered).
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    I think erexere, you are right, that the 12 has been stolen again. I believe the thief to be Dodge, not one of the tennants. My "evidence":
    1. The only questions he ever asked the tennants was whether they saw or could identify the thieves -nothing else. Was he checking to see if they could identify him?
    2. He also told Gus what he would do if he had the jewels, "be done with this nonsense..."
    3. He told Ternky that "what I do with the jewels is my business".
    4. He disappeared without a trace.
    5. I think he left clues for himself so that Gus would draw them into the illustrations-and he took them with him.
    6. I don't have my book with me, but the last page has a title something like, "A New Mystery?" or "One More Puzzle?" ...something like that, suggesting there may be something to solve after Dodge revealed his solution; that the tennants were the thieves, and that they left clues in their own apartments. An accusation none of which, by the way, ever actually admitted to. Maybe it was all his doing and the acucsations wer just a ruse to throw us off the real trail.

    Other possible "secondary" thieves: Ternky himself (where is that helicopter?), #1 Fan Pupkin (in cahoots with Dodge), and of course, batty Bakula-or is that floor just a red herring?

    I also like Sara's idea of posting new or different ideas-or even rehashed ones. We have seen the references to begin at the end, the end is the begining, eternity, forever.....yada yada. Maybe this means that we need to really start over. Wipe the slate clean. That any state, any floor, any mile marker, is back on the table-maybe even one where a number has been found already. "Failed Searches" means nothing anymore. Start as if this was Day One; that no number has been unearthed; that everything is possible again. It is April 2010, you have gone back in time, and you just cracked the binding on that book of yours that in 2011 is in 5 pieces.

    And. like Sara, I still like anagrams!

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    These last three posts are really good stuff. I have purposely not openned my book or even lurked on these forums for quite some time now (and am not sure just why I openned this new post). But, I think it high time I take your advice, opne the book with a clean slate and a new perspective focussed only on ONE things, a number 12 solution, and see if I can come up with anything new to add and help you folks with or something new about an old thought.

    Best to all and Hunt Happily.

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    Try splitting the 12 to 5+7 and the high way check 91 and see if that fits to anything

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    Default s/h/m

    Could the s/h/m stand for something else? Ideas anyone?

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    Whatever happens, the letter "T" should be involved on some level.

    For all the floors with a "T" shaped walking cane, and the 7th floor with a chair that had a variation of blue and brown wood shaped like a "T", the top o the T protracted in someway to point towards whatever would be used to determine the State.
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    Wackadoo idea: what if at the time of pulling together all the content for the images of the book, the authors put together a plan to draw from an already existing plan of soon to be published by McSweeny's works such that many features of the content would represent a manner of product integration? There's a sack of potatoes on 8th floor and there's a new book Edgar Allen Poe's "The Tell Tale Tuber" by Rachel Klein.

    This idea might not seem helpful at first, but I feel that an attempt to understand the overall McSweeny's approach to things might help us click with TCWAF. I'm basically saying that an out of the box approach is good as long as it's still in the warehouse.
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    About that "5" on 4th floor. It is rather unique in that no other floor contained such a bold suggestion of a number that didn't support its solution. 6th floor's bold roman numerals made for a quick and simple solution. 4th floor's solution had amazing subtlety and the "5" just doesn't seem necessary on the level of it being there as a decoy. I'm leaning towards it being highly relevant to the final solution for the 12.

    I'm crossposting a little to keep what I think relevant to each floor in it's own main thread. I just posted on 2nd floor's thread that I felt the "5" on 4th floor is simply a message to look at 5th floor for a special clue. I'm thinking that clue might be the open TCWAF book which is saying "look at 2nd floor". So what's special about 2nd floor? I'm not sure yet, but I think a series of connected clues will take us to a very important and necessary piece of the final puzzle.
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