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    Default P. 19 + Puzzle Companion

    Greetings from the Bayou State of Louisiana!

    There's a Really Big Idea attempting to form here that I can't quite get my mind around, and I wanted to share it with the group.

    On p. 69 of the Puzzle Companion appears a very odd clue that I think might be relevant to our game: It's a picture of a large golden key together with a big clock. The clock is set to 3:00. This clock is enlarged on the title page of the Puzzle Companion.

    Flash forward to p. 19 of the actual treasure hunt book. I think there are two clues on this page: an optical illusion puzzle whereby the bottom part of the picture has been duplicated along its left border and the little marks in the leaf: 3 2 2.

    Imagine this page to be a representative of our 5 x 5 grid. If we numbered the bottom of this page from 1 to 5, according to our clue, the left border would then be numbered from 1 to 5 from top-to-bottom. The bottom part of the picture is rotated 90 degrees.

    The 3 2 2 at the left lower corner: 3 = C and 22 = V. (3rd letter and 22nd letter of the alphabet.) CV = 105 (Roman numerals).

    It makes me think the bottom left square of this grid is being assigned the coordinates 10, 5, but the only way that can happen is for the numbers to loop back around. Very similar to what is being shown by that bent ruler in the picture. It would go from 1 to 5 left-to-right, then 6 - 10 from right-to-left.

    It puts me in mind of that picture from the companion book. The quadrant of the clock delineated by 3:00 is the same as the clues in the woodworking picture: a bottom border and a left border. The hands of that clock are arrows pointing both directions, something similar to achieving 1 to 5, then 6 - 10 on that grid.

    This may be a case of grossly over-reading some clues.

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    I took the picture to mean "key time", as in it is time for me to give you a key. I think it has to do with the cryptograph on the page next to it. Maybe too simplistic, but I am 98% sure that we will be filling the 5x5 grid with 1's and 0's and using x/y coordinates (p100 mushroom for instance) to create the binary string.

    Again my reasoning for a binary code is threefold

    A) stradther was a programmer
    B) An even code = "bi" 2 is even
    C) with one piece nary = one of the two pieces is nothing (0) and also nary is used to form binary

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    Default interesting theory

    I like the attempt to crack that page's code. I agree that there must be one. but your method seems a bit arbitrary. for example, you seem to look at the numbers from left to right, even though it's just as plausible to look at them top to bottom. also, why break the 3 2 & 2 into C & V? just because it works out to roman numerals? just as plausible to break it into C, B, B because they're on different levels of the leaf. and then, where do you get the idea of coordinates? I like that idea, but again, I'd say your division of 105 is somewhat arbitrary. anyway, great to see the thinking out loud. I wish I had a counter theory. I'll definitely work on it.

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    TomDif, I think you're absolutely correct on this. (IMHO, of course)

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    I for one am still a little confused about the box with the 5 X 5 grid.. Afterall the jewelery box only contained 12 spaces.. One for each of the jewels... Denise
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    Default unclock that clue

    Just for the record, the image of the clock you're referring to, Doc, is actually a copyright-free stock image. You can find it at photodisc.com (Getty Images) with reference number IM16821. Or by using keywords "Day & Night Clock". I suspect most of the images on the cover and used as filler are from this source.

    None of that means they aren't clues, of course; but if they are they were selected to fit some meaning, not crafted to impart it.

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    That is incredible and I barely even understood it. If by some small chance it proves incorrect, though, doesn't it look like morse code? I never saw that before, but it seriously could be, just think about it.
    Or am I just paranoid...

    *Of course*

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    Default Coincidence

    100 pages 100 puzzles?
    What is the point of a puzzle that provides you ways to understand where the author got his ideas when the puzzle book repeats some of the puzzles, not together, but throughout the book?
    To me it is either a lapse (not likely) or 100 puzzles to solve 100 clues (not necessarily in order or even pages).
    Just food for thought.
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    Default Re: Coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by Spades
    100 pages 100 puzzles?
    What is the point of a puzzle that provides you ways to understand where the author got his ideas when the puzzle book repeats some of the puzzles, not together, but throughout the book?
    To me it is either a lapse (not likely) or 100 puzzles to solve 100 clues (not necessarily in order or even pages).
    Just food for thought.

    I found several solutions through the companion. You can see that the puzzles begin with puzzle 16. Likewise, the chapters in the book begin on page 16. The puzzles end with #100. The chapters end with chapter 100.

    I'm not saying that the companion is necessary, but I found the map in the book by the clue in the companion.
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    Default Re: Coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by spectrechaser
    I'm not saying that the companion is necessary, but I found the map in the book by the clue in the companion.
    huh? What map?

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