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    Default Cryptoquotes

    Has anyone been able to solve the cryptoquotes in the companion book yet? If so, could you share how you decoded them?

    I posted this question a week or two over on the Q4T board, and got some enthusiastic yesses, but no explanations. Somebody said that they were simple substitution ciphers, but that hasn't worked on any of the ones I've tried.

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    Its just a substitution code.. Each letter is substituted for another and the pattern of letters always stays the same.. As you can see below... Cryptoquote # 63 from the puzzle book and the answer below it... Most of the times when you see a repeat of certain letters like the three letters MVC It stands for a simple 3 letter word that is often used in our language such as the word THE... Single letters are usually the letter A or I... Start with those hints and start to substitute letters and the rest starts to fall in place.. Also look for two letters together.. which could be either the letter S or the letter L... Those I think are the most common... I used to do these puzzles in the paper alot... but now I have a computer program that does them for me and a lot quicker...

    mvc gqkieruah hyqkwcg no pklw mvc aklmml vcqgcg olk mvc lqi mkcc eric q hmlkw delng mckkrjec qaqruhm mvc gqyu hib

    the darklings swarmed up from the grotto headed for the oak tree like a storm cloud terrible against the dawn sky

    As you can see above the letters never change... If the first letter M represents the letter T then it must represent the letter T throughout the entire puzzle.. Denise
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    jeez, I feel dumb. I tried again and, sure enough, they're all pretty simple substitution ciphers. Thanks for holding my hand and walking me through it, Frstprzfa.

    Do you think there's a chance that we could decipher a passage, only to reveal ... a cryptoquote?! I mean, turning plain text into crytogram and then back into plain text again? Should every potentially nonsense phrase we come up with be vetted through the tedious cryptogram deciphering process?

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    At this point, I too believe in faeries... So I guess anything is possible..
    Denise
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    Easy substitution cypher(moving each letter 1 line over making a-b, b-c, c-d...z-a, 2 lines over making a-c, b-d....z-b and so on)-
    http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/caesar.html

    Advanced substitution(b does not follow a, necessarily, possibly a-c b-t c-u d-b, etc... over 400,000,000,000 possibly ways...)

    http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_...nWithMenu.html[/url]
    Or am I just paranoid...

    *Of course*

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    I, personally love Cryptoquotes. I think they are easy...

    What I do to solve them is find the shortest words...like single letters can only be either 'a' or 'i', and three letter words are likely 'the' or 'and'...I just kind of figure it out from there.

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    Default CRYptoquotes

    Hey Frst,

    I still cant see how you could consistently solve any of these unless you had some idea of what they are supposed to say. It appears these all come from the book.
    So TM, after getting that explanation from frst, you were able to figure them all out?
    Im missing something... even if I "know" a few letters of short words, double letters, etc. I seem to still fall way short of an entire key for the passage.
    What I want to know is this? Is there any pattern/keyword/etc. to the solution to them.

    There are tweleve of them in the clue book. Each has a different key.
    and there appears to be no pattern that I can find.

    So you guys think all that work was simply to teach us to look for 3 letter words and double letters?

    Why did MS not explain the code for any of these cryptoquotes in the back of the book? Instead he simply gives us the quote. This bothers me a LOT> since most of the others he tries to explain the issue.

    Of course, I dont know why it matters since in order to break a code you have to actually have a code to break, something that is recognizable as a string of code.


    OR NOT!

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    So every single one of these is a randomly generated monoalphabetic substitution code? Seems like he could have put just one with a keyword or pattern to it.

    Does not!

    does too!

    Charles, please dont argue about this with me any more tonight!

    Your right, its late. Lets go get a beer!

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    I agree about the cryptoquotes. I thought it was so weird that there was no expanation or discussion about any of them in the answer section. I also thought it was weird that there were so many of that type of puzzle and only one of each of the other types of puzzles. I really did not see the point, unless he was just trying to generate interest in the ATT book by including interesting quotes in the CB.

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    If there was only one set of substitutions, wouldn't it give away all of the locations to whomever finds it first? Perhaps there's a different one for each chapter/puzzle? Maybe the entire book is one big cryptoquote...

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