+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 50

Thread: Musical References

  1. #1
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default Musical References

    At the very end of the book, we have all noticed a page with musical notes. Is it simply an extra page for us to write "notes"? I am using it to list all of the musical references that I have found in the book.

    The "Saloon Song" has been solved. Obviously it is a reference to a song about cowboys.

    But I have found LOTS of other musical references. I will offer up a few examples here, and perhaps we can compile a list.

    On page 7, at the bottom, the last sentence reads, "But for some, it could mean hard hunting days followed by crazy honky tonk nights". There is a song titled, "Hard Days and Honky-Tonk Nights" by Earl Thomas Conley from his album, "Live at Billy Bob's Texas".

    On page 9, on the top right, part of a sentence contains the words, "pack it up and follow". These exact same words appear in the lyrics of two songs, Joe Wilson's "Seattle" and Texas Tornado's, "Grande Vida".

    Page 11 has, "...and one day I'll be dead" which are lyrics from Boys Don't Cry's song titled, "I Wanna Be a Cowboy".

    I could list about twenty more instances where there are lines of text that are exactly like lines from a song, or are very similar to the lyrics. Are these just coincidences? I don't think they are. How many times do you hear the words, "pack it up and follow"? If they are not coincidences, then we have to ask ourselves, did Domino include them there for some reason? If so, was it just for fun because the songs reference some type of cowboy life? Or is there a REAL hint there?

    I am sure that there are probably more than just the ones I have found too. Most of the songs that I have come across are country songs or old cowboy ballads, which are not to my taste. So I am not all that familiar with the lines in these songs. Someone who listens to this type of music may be able to recognize some text from a song.

    Even some of the titles to the different sections of the book are also song titles. Just try googling one.

    And speaking of "ballads", that word itself came up in Domino's text a couple of times too. So I think he may want us to be aware of the chance that there may be some type of reference to a song or a ballad.

    Anyone want to "chime in"?

  2. #2
    Domino's Avatar
    Domino is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Sapphire
    Domino is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    On Location
    Posts
    1,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Genetic Blend View Post
    At the very end of the book, we have all noticed a page with musical notes. Is it simply an extra page for us to write "notes"? I am using it to list all of the musical references that I have found in the book.

    The "Saloon Song" has been solved. Obviously it is a reference to a song about cowboys.

    But I have found LOTS of other musical references. I will offer up a few examples here, and perhaps we can compile a list.

    On page 7, at the bottom, the last sentence reads, "But for some, it could mean hard hunting days followed by crazy honky tonk nights". There is a song titled, "Hard Days and Honky-Tonk Nights" by Earl Thomas Conley from his album, "Live at Billy Bob's Texas".

    On page 9, on the top right, part of a sentence contains the words, "pack it up and follow". These exact same words appear in the lyrics of two songs, Joe Wilson's "Seattle" and Texas Tornado's, "Grande Vida".

    Page 11 has, "...and one day I'll be dead" which are lyrics from Boys Don't Cry's song titled, "I Wanna Be a Cowboy".

    I could list about twenty more instances where there are lines of text that are exactly like lines from a song, or are very similar to the lyrics. Are these just coincidences? I don't think they are. How many times do you hear the words, "pack it up and follow"? If they are not coincidences, then we have to ask ourselves, did Domino include them there for some reason? If so, was it just for fun because the songs reference some type of cowboy life? Or is there a REAL hint there?

    I am sure that there are probably more than just the ones I have found too. Most of the songs that I have come across are country songs or old cowboy ballads, which are not to my taste. So I am not all that familiar with the lines in these songs. Someone who listens to this type of music may be able to recognize some text from a song.

    Even some of the titles to the different sections of the book are also song titles. Just try googling one.

    And speaking of "ballads", that word itself came up in Domino's text a couple of times too. So I think he may want us to be aware of the chance that there may be some type of reference to a song or a ballad.

    Anyone want to "chime in"?


  3. #3
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default

    I don't hear any chimes...I can't possibly be the only one who has noticed soooo many musical references. I could keep listing more, but why should I if no one else wants to add to the discussion?

  4. #4
    stvwz's Avatar
    stvwz is online now Master Twelever TwelevePlus
    Ruby
    stvwz is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    2,195

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Genetic Blend View Post
    I don't hear any chimes...I can't possibly be the only one who has noticed soooo many musical references. I could keep listing more, but why should I if no one else wants to add to the discussion?

    Beth - i think you are on to something here - just been too busy and tired to do any look ups...

    Keep dancin!

  5. #5
    FoxyKeys's Avatar
    FoxyKeys is offline Junior Twelever +1 Bronze FoxyKeys is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    188

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Genetic Blend View Post
    I don't hear any chimes...I can't possibly be the only one who has noticed soooo many musical references. I could keep listing more, but why should I if no one else wants to add to the discussion?
    Hey, Beth, Beth here

    Perhaps this belongs in the Mustering Chapter topic, but I want to share with you that I may have found a music clue. It's not in the text. It's on p.39 and it has to do with the little 12X12 symbols. I counted out and identified 6 unique symbols and I suspect they may be open string sounds on a guitar. I assigned the symbol that looks like a NO sign as a High E on the guitar. Lightening bolt is a B. Stop sign is a G. Eight petaled flower is a D. Heart is an A. Smilie is a Low E.

    If you assume I may be right, you can plot it on a 12X12 grid. But what stumps me is I don't know a cowboy tune at this time that would work with this open string picking.

    Hope it gets us closer. Thanks.
    Trove on,
    Beth

  6. #6
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default

    Hello Beth, Beth here!!

    I like your music theory theory. I have lots of musical instruments here at my house. Guitars, basses, drums, keyboards, trumpets, bells, etc... I will certainly be able to get someone to play it.

    Just one question: How did you come about assigning each symbol its respective note? (For example, why did you assign the "No" symbol the high E, and why did you assign the heart the A? and so on...)

    The only problem I see in looking at the symbols is that in music there usually is a repeating pattern, and I don't see one here---at least not on first glance. Maybe when it is played, the high and low Es might make a difference.

    I really like your line of thinking on this puzzle. I am mad at myself for not coming up with that idea myself! I realized that there were six different symbols, but I never associated them with the six strings on a guitar. I should have thought about that when I started seeing so many references to music!

    Thanks for your insight and input!

  7. #7
    FoxyKeys's Avatar
    FoxyKeys is offline Junior Twelever +1 Bronze FoxyKeys is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    188

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Genetic Blend View Post
    Hello Beth, Beth here!!

    I like your music theory theory. I have lots of musical instruments here at my house. Guitars, basses, drums, keyboards, trumpets, bells, etc... I will certainly be able to get someone to play it.

    Just one question: How did you come about assigning each symbol its respective note? (For example, why did you assign the "No" symbol the high E, and why did you assign the heart the A? and so on...)

    The only problem I see in looking at the symbols is that in music there usually is a repeating pattern, and I don't see one here---at least not on first glance. Maybe when it is played, the high and low Es might make a difference.

    I really like your line of thinking on this puzzle. I am mad at myself for not coming up with that idea myself! I realized that there were six different symbols, but I never associated them with the six strings on a guitar. I should have thought about that when I started seeing so many references to music!

    Thanks for your insight and input!
    Hi Beth GB!

    Don't get mad... get Dominos! Well, a guitar or piano will do. I use to play the guitar and the idea just struck me. Regarding my choice of symbols, I just picked them starting with the first unique on as if your reading any paragraph (upper left) then and just picked the next symbol as it appeared left to right. The pick is from the high string to the lowest sounding string and I just thought it might work. I could have switched it from low E to high E but I was in experimental mode. So I got...
    hE (high E), B, B, G, D, hE, B, A, B, hE, A, hE
    A, A, lE (low E), D, hE, lE, lE, B, lE, D, D, A
    D, G, B, hE, lE, G, hE, hE, hE, A, D, B
    D, D, B, D, G, D, A, B, A, lE,A lE
    lE, G, G, lE, D, G, A, D, B, B, hE, B
    A, A, lE, lE, hE, D, lE, lE, A, A, lE, A
    A, lE, B, D, B, D, hE, A, hE, D, A, B
    D, G, D, lE, A, hE, lE, hE, hE, lE, A, lE
    hE, G, lE, B, A, G, B, D, G, A, B, B
    lE, D, B, lE, hE, lE, D, hE, B, A, G, hE
    lE, B, A, D, A, G, A, B, G, D, hE, A
    D, hE, G, A, D, B, A, D, D, lE, G, B

    These could easily be Chords as well, but then we'd have a ballad... as it would be a long song. Just don't see a chorus. ... could be a ballad. Don't know.

    Trove on,
    Beth

  8. #8
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default

    I will have to think on this one...B chords are not all that common...

  9. #9
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default Here are a few more musical references from page 11:

    Page 11 has in the bubble, "In my mind..." This could be from the song, "Carolina in My Mind" by James Taylor or it could also be from "Jukebox in My Mind" by Alabama.

    In the text on page 11, at the top are the words, "a mouth full of tobacco"...There is a June Carter Cash song that has some lyrics that have the words, "mouth full of tobacco juice".

    Right after that in the text is "a bottle of burbon". A group called Karma to Burn wrote a song titled "Twin Sisters and Half a Bottle of Bourbon". It also mentions in the lyrics, "the king is dead". (Elvis)

    Also in the text on page 11, is "new breed of cowboy", this is in the song track lyrics from the movie, "Urban Cowboy".

    Almost at the bottom of the same page is "I am Cowboy". Devo did a song called, "I am Cowboy Kim". And if you ever saw their video of the song "Whip It", there are cowboys in the video using a whip. It is actually amusing.

  10. #10
    Genetic Blend's Avatar
    Genetic Blend is offline Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
    Amethyst
    Genetic Blend is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,052

    Default A few more for page 11...

    More for "I am Cowboy"...

    The Sugarcubes wrote a song titled, "Cowboy".

    Thin Lizzy wrote the "Cowboy Song", and in it, it mentions Texas.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts