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    Default Just what we need... another cypher code

    Used this in another puzzle solve so thought someone might find some use of this:

    It is based on Lewis Carroll's Alphabet Cipher http://users.lk.net/~stepanov/mnemo/takahae.html

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    Default .....and another great link

    http://www.irgaminga.com/index.php?o...d=13&Itemid=29

    What I find most valuable here is word frequency.
    http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/...d_counter.html

    This may be a help because we all know that MS uses double lettering, and literation.

    I also do not believe his misspellings are in error.

    I think I've found my nitch....or nest in this puzzle.
    Lots to be learned from the Tree of Knowledge!!!

    I hope these helps help!.... even I'm literating... is that even a word? hahahahah

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    A while ago my brother noticed a resemblence between Stadther's drawings and the work of Arthur Rackham, who illustrated Carroll's "Alice in Wonderland." When he checked out some of Rackham's other work, like "Wind in the Willows," "Midsummer Night's Dream," and "Gulliver's Travels," the similarities were too great to ignore. Rackham's fairies, trees, and nature scenes looked almost identicle to those in "A Treasure's Trove." When my bro researched a little more, he came up with a few defining qualities for Rackham's work:

    1. a sinuous pen line softened with muted water color
    2. forests of looming, frightening trees with grasping roots
    3. sensuous, but somehow chaste, fairy maidens
    4. ogres and trolls ugly enough to repulse but with sufficient good nature not to frighten
    5. backgrounds filled with little nuggets of hidden images or surprising animated animals or trees

    These are just a few ways in which Stadther's art resembles Rackham's.

    Sure enough, in one of the early articles on ATT (sorry, didn't save the link), the writer mentioned how the caterpillar bears a resemblance to the caterpillar in the version of Alice in Wonderland illustrated by Rackham. What's more, Stadther acknowledged to the writer that he owned several pieces by Rackham.

    When my brother went to the White Plains book signing, he asked Stadther if he was a fan of Rackham. MS admitted that, indeed, he'd been heavily influenced by Rackham -- especially in the tree department.

    I don't know if this reinforces the connection to Lewis Carroll, or if it means we should be looking more closely at Rackham's work, but either way I thought it would be useful to bring it up If you're not familiar with Arthur Rackham, do a Google search and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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    Just as a side note,

    Rackham was not Alice in Wonderland's original illustrator, Sir John Tenniel was. This isn't to say there isn't a connection between AinW and ATT, but it could make a difference in the long run.

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    wouldnt this fall into the "special knowledge" dept.?

    Good info to have, however I seriously doubt you would NEED it to solve the puzzle(s). Remeber, if you can READ, you can solve the puzzle. Nowhere in the rules does it even mention things such as cyphers. I think you guys are making this far more difficult then it has to be.

    Hidden where to eye can see? Sometimes the hardest things to see are the things right in front of your nose.

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    Sure, knowing the detailed history of Rackham (or Carroll) might considered be "special knowledge." But knowledge of "Alice in Wonderland" or "Wind in the Willows"? I don't think so.

    Indiana, your point about only needing to know how to READ is a good one. But who says that Stadther doesn't mean reading generally -- i.e. reading more than just "A Treasure's Trove"? Who says that a knowledge of other children's books, fairy tales, and stories isn't necessary? I for one don't think Peter Pan or The Raven qualify as special knowledge.

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    Point taken. I think you missed mine though

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    The Treasure Trove Puzzle Book Companion has a rather detailed section on Ciphers, uses many cryptoquotes in the puzzles to solve, and also uses Morse Code in one puzzle.

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    Default If he used the Vigenere Cipher on pooks stuffed animal tag

    He could use it else where. for those who haven't seen or heard it. His tag says MYMRLYVR
    Use this as the encrypted message on this web site. Use treasure as the keyword, and you get thirteen as the translation.

    Hopes this helps people. I am trying to find keywords that break the mystery text on page 63. Those unused letters look too much like a code to me....




    http://islab.oregonstate.edu/koc/ece...ereCipher.html :P
    Hope we all find one !!!

    hunting grasshopper with ugfxj

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