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    Those 16 points of a compass correspond to the 16 places on the outer circle of a 5 x 5 grid.

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    Doc,

    Am i missing something or did you leave out the open crescent moon in the second symbol on the second line?

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    doc, anyone, i dont get it, im good with clock, compass wheel multi layer
    wheel, and alpha and #s,symbols but not binary conversion
    to #s or alpha, or even using binary i dont see where your
    getting the binary. somehow i dont think ms would expect
    that degree of calculations, and such a mix of math on one
    wheel, maybe alpha on 1 wheel,symbols on a wheel, and a big
    maybe binary on any wheel. i just dont get the connection to binary
    from base 5 and 10. does anyone have an explanation please

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    Default Questions for Doc..

    You say the top right corner should be a 2, but when there is a double vertical line, you use the top right corner as 3, and the top middle as 2.
    This is where I am snagged, as well.

    The second combined symbol in the first group (the group from which Doc derived SW 8-10 PUT) is EXACTLY the same as the third symbol in the other group. Therefore they should both be the same value. Doc has them valued at 22 & 23, respectively.

    SW is much nicer than SV but according to the key, the second letter of that string should be a 'V', not a W, right?

    The 4th symbol in the 2nd string is tricky. It's the dark dot in the middle of two vertical bars and there is nothing on the key for that. When I was trying to work it out myself, I counted it as upper left (1) because the upper left column was empty - as if to say 'far' left. If that makes any sense. Based on that I got 21. That would change VPS to UPS. So maybe we're sending/receiving packages??

    Here is a picture of what I'm talking about just to clarify Doc's post.



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    what doc is saying (correct me if i'm wrong) is that when you add the second vertical line, then you have 6 spaces instead of only the 4 you have with one vertical line. so with 2 vertical lines and 1 horizontal you have 10+5+5=20. Then you have 6 spaces. Upper left =21, upper middle=22, upper right=23, bottom left=24, bottom middle =25, bottom right=26. i hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theuglyfool
    what doc is saying (correct me if i'm wrong) is that when you add the second vertical line, then you have 6 spaces instead of only the 4 you have with one vertical line.  so with 2 vertical lines and 1 horizontal you have 10+5+5=20.  Then you have 6 spaces.  Upper left =21, upper middle=22, upper right=23, bottom left=24, bottom middle =25, bottom right=26.  i hope this helps.
    Ah, I see.

    Thanks for clarifying.

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    What value does a not filled in dot get?
    There are alot of those.


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    Jen,

    That's an awesome graphic, but slightly misleading.

    Your 'key' has the cross in it, and that implies 16, 17, 18, and 19.

    The true 'key' has only the dark dot in the four corners.

    Theuglyfool is correct--I should have been more precise in my description.

    Doc

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    lindenmi Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject:

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    What value does a not filled in dot get?
    hmmmmmmm, this is the problem that i have with docs solution. it seems that the clear circles, crescent moons, and anything that doesn't fit are base 5 numbers. sometimes they are added together, sometimes they are included as is, and sometimes it seems they are omitted. not that i have any better ideas or solutions. i like the solve on the letters but the differences with how the numbers are used bother me. can you explain the numbers doc?

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    Very nice work Doc! Would you mind giving a little hint as to where you came up with the directions to create this wheel. It is a great piece of work!

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