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    The RV tag shows 62-18 = 44 deg, MDI's latitude.

    "Count 23"

    44 deg , 2 3 min

    There is a coded sequence in the book, which directs one to look at page 10. The line groupings are 4 4 6.

    Here are the last several lines -
    11. A..nd that's not natural
    12. L..ike us
    13. A..nd found a shape
    14. T..han all that's true
    A LAT (where "lat" is commonly used in the pairing "lat / long")

    and the p. 11 contour maps give the TTO ... AL ... TO LAT
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    The black "piano" keys (which are grouped incorrectly) may be used to generate grid co-ordinates. Beginning upper left, clockwise

    3,2 / 2,3 / 1,3 / 2,3 (column, row)

    As the 4 x 4 grid here then yields

    I AM A / LAMA

    depending on whether one reads the partially obscured 3,2 as "I" or "L"

    Interesting because LAMA means "Teacher" and the grid column 2 gives "TEACH".

    Also, because the 4x4 and p. 44 has the NEPAL sign.
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    Geometry has two great treasures; one is the Theorem of Pythagoras; the other, the division of a line into extreme and mean ratio. The first we may compare to a measure of gold; the second we may name a precious jewel.

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    Welcome mainer1, it's good to see this forum active again, and some new ideas are welcome.

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    thanks, i came across the book while camping on MDI this summer.So I thought I'd give it ago.

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    Default Neptune's key: MY KEE?

    In response to mattylarocha's post on the p. 19 thread, I shared an idea about pairing pages 7 (Neptune) and 11 ("Hidden Away" collage).

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    I had noticed that the black/white/yellow/red tropical fish on Neptune's sash is the same shape as the fish that lurks behind the weather vane sailboat on the "Hidden Away" illustration. There are other common or similar elements that make me think these two illustrations might work together - I'd love to see if others see the same things I see. Please post suggestions in this thread (or on the p. 11 or 7 threads), if you do see similarities.
    I'll start the sharing with some of the other similar elements I see in these two illustrations.

    Sea/C
    On p. 7, the two side dolphins on the Neptune page sort of point outward to the letter C in sceptre and the word SEA on the right border. On p. 11, the blue eye and red eye wedges (for lack of a better term) point inward to the letter C in the magic square and the deep blue sea on the globe.

    The p. 11 key pointing down and the p. 7 middle dolphin don't show the same matching pattern as the red/blue-eyed wedges and the side dolphins. (Unless they combine to indicate "MY KEE.") The bottom image inside the key, however, is Virgo holding up what looks like a letter C. (In traditional representations, she holds wheat or a mirror, I think.) If the two wedges and the mosaic key represent the three dolphins, this third C could be telling us something about the letter C (or things we should see?) hidden in illustrations. So we have the ocean (sea), the letter C in a magic square, and a letter C incorporated into an image. And on the "Deep Down" page, we have border words "sea" and the letter C within a word.

    Deep/Keep
    Neptune's trident points to DEEP; the collage key points to KEEP.

    The key in the mosaic page would be in roughly the same position as Neptune and the center dolphin. The top of the mosaic key would be the equivalent of Neptune, if the comparison goes beyond dolphins. There seem to be potential messages around the globe (the fox does tell us that Neptune "can simply run your hide around / the world and back" on p. 6): compass, fish and crab (understandable, given the Neptune connection), and gravity (the apple with arrow and the Libra scale, perhaps connecting to the "Deep down" message, or the later dropping of the fox into the water).

    Both pages contain a POI iron cross.

    With the word KEY highlighted among the border letters, p. 11 strikes me as a logical place to look for clues that would allow us to interpret the larger puzzle. I get a very strong sense that there is a system of pointed things, but I don't yet know how to interpret them. The hands of a clock, the apple demonstrating gravity, the compass rose, a ship and a sailboat, a weather vane, a line of sight from a human eye, Sagittarius's arrow(s), a lighthouse, an eagle, the arrow through the little dipper, even the Pisces pair of fish.

    Maybe there are pairs within pages as well? Neptune's trident and the three dolphins each have three points that go in opposite directions. There is an open treasure chest and a closed treasure chest. The red-eye and blue-eye wedges go in opposite directions. Sagittarius's arrows go in opposite directions. The ship under the blue-eye wedge and the weather vane sailboat go in opposite directions. But what does this mean?

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    "not sure if this has ever been mentioned before on this site, but there's a building on the College of the Atlantic grounds called SeaFox".

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    The huge KEY connects top and bottom border letters NA E. I believe these have several meanings, but one that is interesting is

    KEY NA E

    YANKEE (is that a Yankee Clipper to the left?)

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    I think I am making some good progress on the EYE (color) KEY code.

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    The base of the right-side triangle is over the letters FORTHE, and that "E" is the 4th E in the border words.


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    I've spent several weeks re-familiarizing myself with this puzzle.

    I've studied most of the images, and believe that page 11 is a sort of template, or instruction, for many of the codes / keys used in the book.

    For example, starting at about halfway down the middle of the page, the letters TIS-L (which may also be an anagram for LIST) connect to the AKE with a picture of an EAGLE to the right.

    Using the boomerang shaped lines on the middle bottom, and connecting one end (letter L) to the other end (AKE) gives LAKE

    The decode is -

    ITS EAGLE LAKE

    The map section found with those letters matches EAGLE LAKE in the map at the back of the book.
    Another part of this decode for this same section is to begin with the SL and read straight down the center

    SL - m(i)x symbol, ie, mix the letters - U (being held) - E

    perhaps USE L (to get the previous LAKE), or even take the U as also C > CLUES

    I am not quite as sure about the CLUES interpretation, but would make sense.
    She is sitting on 4 white blanks, showing that the word to be generated is 4 letters (LAKE).

    Several points from this example
    1. All the information needed is in the book
    2. Pieces of information are connected oven a given page
    3. The map at the back of the book was used to confirm
    4. Anagrams are used

    I believe there are at least 10 types of codes on this page

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    "The Scarlet Cloud Approaches"
    "Time is of ten a one-way street"
    ..........Go 5 X 5..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by astreeturover View Post
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    The decode is -

    ITS EAGLE LAKE

    The map section found with those letters matches EAGLE LAKE in the map at the back of the book.

    astree

    Nice.


    Consider that Eagle Lake is a ...road (as well)...that does have significance outside of Acadia.


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