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    Hiya,

    At the bottom of page 4 it says:
    Each illustration contains at least one key. How many can you find?
    Not sure exactly how this is a clue yet and, as there were only a couple of posts about key counting in general discussion I'd post my count and see where it leads us:

    [table]
    [tr][td]Page 1[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 5[/td][td]= 13[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 7[/td][td]= 2[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 11[/td][td]= 2[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 15[/td][td]= 3[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 17[/td][td]= 2[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 19[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 23[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 26[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]
    [tr][td]Page 30[/td][td]= 2[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 32[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 34 & 35[/td][td]= 2[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 40[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 44 & 45[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 47[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 51[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [tr][td]Page 55[/td][td]= 1[/td][/tr]

    [/table]

    I make that 37.

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    Last edited by Writerian; 08-03-2008 at 06:37 PM. Reason: forgot the double pages

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    and ... forgot to mention that the last lines of the book are:

    I want to live a life that the whole world talks About .....
    After I score that missing key.
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    I haven't had much time to devote to this hunt. I am currently trying to get back into the swing of things. On a quick look through the illustrations in the book for the keys, I have noticed that you have missed a few.
    On page 11 there are 3 that I see.
    On page 23, I see 2.
    On page 26, I see 2.
    On page 34 I see 1 and on page 35 I see 2.
    On page 45 I see 2.
    If there are keys on all of the pages, is there one on page 56?
    I think most of the ones that you missed are part of "the bigger picture". Look for them and I think you will see what I mean. I think there are probably some more that we missed in addition to these. When I have time I will have to look very closely and write down the locations of all of the keys that I find.

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    Could the number of keys on each page be a code to look up in a 5x5 matrix ala ATT?

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    thx genetic blend those are the same keys ive found that they didnt say its just been ive just been to lazy to post it up ^_^

    so does anyone have a really good idea what these keys might actually mean????



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    There are more keys on some of those pages. For example, page 26 has at least three keys, and pages 34-35 have at least four keys.
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    I realize that others will probably see keys I have overlooked, but this is my first attempt at a comprehensive list. I was looking only at the F-shaped skeleton keys (not the more modern looking keys that appear in some illustrations):

    p. 1 - cover - key appears to be carved into a stone at lower right
    5 - mossy tree trunk covered with key shapes
    7 - gold key tangled in Neptune's beard; small gold key near lock to treasure chest. (Is this the only illustration with a lock near the key?)
    11 - large, central key image made of collage pieces
    15 - two keys on Otter Cliff in background (perpendicular to each other)
    17 - one key on Fop's trousers amid whale pattern; one key on sailing pennant on flagpole
    19 - key reflected in lens of camera, over fox face
    23 - discolored shingles on fishing shack form key image; small key on ring is F-shaped but not a skeleton key?
    26 - gold key in grass by fairy's wand; reflection of moonlight on pond is key-shaped; shadow on mountain is key-shaped; is there a fourth key on Celestia's wing?
    30 - key on spine of green book at upper right (title of book includes the word "wind")
    32 - key in pattern on trousers of Abnaki's "authentic buckskins"
    34 - key image amid flames over forest; another key on stone of bridge (p. 35) may not be a skeleton key
    40 - key image reflected in window at upper right
    45 - key image in cloud is reflected in key image in water.
    47 - lighter feathers on eagle's wing show key pattern
    51 - cloud puffs at upper right shaped like key
    55 - puddle at Fandango's feet shaped like key

    Why do some pages have more than one key? Does the orientation of each key matter? Is there a land/sea/sky or animal/vegetable/mineral pattern? Why did the illustrator include additional, modern keys in some images? Should those keys be included in the list?

    The last place we see the gold, three-dimensional key is on p. 26. There are three other key images on that page - (apparently) more than any other page. Of the three additional key images, one is reflected light, one is the absence of light (shadow) and one is on a fairy wing (that disappears when the moon sets).

    I haven't seen a lot of discussion of key references in the text (e.g., p. 50, "kelp I yelped"). Anyone care to share any attempts at systematic analysis?

    Also any new theories about musical keys, piano keys or the qwerty keyboard?

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    Not sure I would discount ANY key, no matter what its shape or vintage.

    What about piano KEYS

    Lots of possibilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Lion View Post
    I realize that others will probably see keys I have overlooked, but this is my first attempt at a comprehensive list. I was looking only at the F-shaped skeleton keys (not the more modern looking keys that appear in some illustrations):

    p. 1 - cover - key appears to be carved into a stone at lower right
    5 - mossy tree trunk covered with key shapes
    7 - gold key tangled in Neptune's beard; small gold key near lock to treasure chest. (Is this the only illustration with a lock near the key?)
    11 - large, central key image made of collage pieces
    15 - two keys on Otter Cliff in background (perpendicular to each other)
    17 - one key on Fop's trousers amid whale pattern; one key on sailing pennant on flagpole
    19 - key reflected in lens of camera, over fox face
    23 - discolored shingles on fishing shack form key image; small key on ring is F-shaped but not a skeleton key?
    26 - gold key in grass by fairy's wand; reflection of moonlight on pond is key-shaped; shadow on mountain is key-shaped; is there a fourth key on Celestia's wing?
    30 - key on spine of green book at upper right (title of book includes the word "wind")
    32 - key in pattern on trousers of Abnaki's "authentic buckskins"
    34 - key image amid flames over forest; another key on stone of bridge (p. 35) may not be a skeleton key
    40 - key image reflected in window at upper right
    45 - key image in cloud is reflected in key image in water.
    47 - lighter feathers on eagle's wing show key pattern
    51 - cloud puffs at upper right shaped like key
    55 - puddle at Fandango's feet shaped like key

    Why do some pages have more than one key? Does the orientation of each key matter? Is there a land/sea/sky or animal/vegetable/mineral pattern? Why did the illustrator include additional, modern keys in some images? Should those keys be included in the list?

    The last place we see the gold, three-dimensional key is on p. 26. There are three other key images on that page - (apparently) more than any other page. Of the three additional key images, one is reflected light, one is the absence of light (shadow) and one is on a fairy wing (that disappears when the moon sets).

    I haven't seen a lot of discussion of key references in the text (e.g., p. 50, "kelp I yelped"). Anyone care to share any attempts at systematic analysis?

    Also any new theories about musical keys, piano keys or the qwerty keyboard?

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    Well, the beginning of Masquerade said to look for a hare on each page. Some were hidden, some were not. But in the end, finding the hares really had nothing to do with solving the master puzzle.

    I think the keys in Fandango are the same. Just something fun to do.

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