1. ## Star Code

Using the colored wind rose "stars" in the corners of the border words, it is possible to form words by using the intersecting arms of the stars to point at certain letters in the border words. While not exact yet, I have been able to come up with the fragments of 5 words, one for each color (red, blue, yellow, orange, green). Several of the words are treasure and numbers.

I have not seen anything posted on this before, so I thought I would start a thread to see if we can collectively push this aspect of the puzzle forward.

Steve

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Originally Posted by cw0909
stvwz said
When you say " looking at the things pointing to letters", do you mean the star shapes in the corners?
Have you been able to make anything out on those. I started to do that and have come up with some "almost" words,
very interesting, but quite exact yet.

i was thinking it is a color issue, as take the red points, do we use RED, red.
or all SHADES of red.i have nothing on that, just as you say almost words.
going back to the colored letters
our first lesson was color code, to spell words, second lesson was, anagram
those words to what end? the red letters were per pg, the blue were anagramed from
several pgs. maybe we should start a, THE FOX CODE TOPIC, or something like that
Page 40 - And pie

steve are you breaking the shades of the colors down
like, light red, red,and that peachy red , or just grouping, all shades of red
together
i keep getting those almost words, from grouping all shades of each color together,
then when i breakdown each shade of the colors, i still get almost words
i think there is something, to the stars, but i just cant, figure the pattern out
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3. Originally Posted by cw0909
Originally Posted by cw0909
stvwz said
When you say " looking at the things pointing to letters", do you mean the star shapes in the corners?
Have you been able to make anything out on those. I started to do that and have come up with some "almost" words,
very interesting, but quite exact yet.

i was thinking it is a color issue, as take the red points, do we use RED, red.
or all SHADES of red.i have nothing on that, just as you say almost words.
going back to the colored letters
our first lesson was color code, to spell words, second lesson was, anagram
those words to what end? the red letters were per pg, the blue were anagramed from
several pgs. maybe we should start a, THE FOX CODE TOPIC, or something like that
Page 40 - And pie

steve are you breaking the shades of the colors down
like, light red, red,and that peachy red , or just grouping, all shades of red
together
i keep getting those almost words, from grouping all shades of each color together,
then when i breakdown each shade of the colors, i still get almost words
i think there is something, to the stars, but i just cant, figure the pattern out

cw-I grouped all shades together RYOGB

I will have to look to see if I can sort out finer shades.

scw

4. Any more progress on the star codes? I have been trying for a few days now, but no luck.

Trainor

5. Originally Posted by Trainor
Any more progress on the star codes? I have been trying for a few days now, but no luck.

Trainor
Relooked at the stars again. Got the same thing

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?

s

6. Originally Posted by stvwz

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?

s
Steve,

p. 13, paragraph beginning "Rip," I snapped. and including An errant ray. See caps.

astree

7. Originally Posted by astreeturover
Originally Posted by stvwz

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?

s
Steve,

p. 13, paragraph beginning "Rip," I snapped. and including An errant ray. See caps.

astree
Interesting, but there are other Caps in there that obscure the obvious...

s

8. Originally Posted by stvwz
Relooked at the stars again. Got the same thing

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?
Hi Steve,

I've been studying these stars also... I'm finding it often to be somewhat subjective (a swing and a miss) as to whether or not a star's ray strikes or misses a letter since we're trying to project a line, and often it's a fuzzy line that's only about 8mm long, over a distance that's 30 times greater. In the instance of the pages 44-45, we're projecting it over a seam and a distance 50 times the length of the pointer. Yet still it seems that you're onto something worth studying further... which I will go back and try one more time after posting this note.

There are also some rules that may apply... or at least that's my present theory; learning the rules that the brothers have used in building this puzzle will be important.

Star Rule Number One: Hit or Miss
• a. If a single ray strikes any part of a letter, then that letter is noted and the color of the striking ray.
• b. If any other ray of the same color strikes that same letter again, it's not to be counted as a separate occurrence - that letter is only to be counted once.
• c. Multiple colored rays each striking the same letter once may count the letter, but only once.
• d. Once a ray has struck a letter, even just a glancing touch, that ray stops and doesn't penetrate onto another letter (some rays penetrate entire lines of text).
• e. The question remains as to what is the width of the thing delineating the ray - a .3mm lead, a sharpened No. 2 pencil or a blunt crayola?
Does this rule make any sense or should it be revised?

Kelly

9. Kelly

I looked at the single rays but couldnt find much

the triangulation formed from two rays eliminates much of the "noise" caused by such a small angle error.

the thing that makes me wonder is why some dont point at all or are in weird locations.

also the reflection clues makes me think we are supposed to reverse some of these.

s

Originally Posted by kbellis
Originally Posted by stvwz
Relooked at the stars again. Got the same thing

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?
Hi Steve,

I've been studying these stars also... I'm finding it often to be somewhat subjective (a swing and a miss) as to whether or not a star's ray strikes or misses a letter since we're trying to project a line, and often it's a fuzzy line that's only about 8mm long, over a distance that's 30 times greater. In the instance of the pages 44-45, we're projecting it over a seam and a distance 50 times the length of the pointer. Yet still it seems that you're onto something worth studying further... which I will go back and try one more time after posting this note.

There are also some rules that may apply... or at least that's my present theory; learning the rules that the brothers have used in building this puzzle will be important.

Star Rule Number One: Hit or Miss
• a. If a single ray strikes any part of a letter, then that letter is noted and the color of the striking ray.
• b. If any other ray of the same color strikes that same letter again, it's not to be counted as a separate occurrence - that letter is only to be counted once.
• c. Multiple colored rays each striking the same letter once may count the letter, but only once.
• d. Once a ray has struck a letter, even just a glancing touch, that ray stops and doesn't penetrate onto another letter (some rays penetrate entire lines of text).
• e. The question remains as to what is the width of the thing delineating the ray - a .3mm lead, a sharpened No. 2 pencil or a blunt crayola?
Does this rule make any sense or should it be revised?

Kelly

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Originally Posted by stvwz
Kelly

I looked at the single rays but couldnt find much

the triangulation formed from two rays eliminates much of the "noise" caused by such a small angle error.

the thing that makes me wonder is why some dont point at all or are in weird locations.

also the reflection clues makes me think we are supposed to reverse some of these.

s

Originally Posted by kbellis
Originally Posted by stvwz
Relooked at the stars again. Got the same thing

Blue - NUMBERS
Yellow - TREUSRE (treasure?)
Orange - HIDFEN (hidden?)(find the?)
Red - RIDDLE
Pink - OPE (open?)

The first letter of each color group spells NORTH.....

There has to be something here...Anyone else see anything I missed?
Hi Steve,

I've been studying these stars also... I'm finding it often to be somewhat subjective (a swing and a miss) as to whether or not a star's ray strikes or misses a letter since we're trying to project a line, and often it's a fuzzy line that's only about 8mm long, over a distance that's 30 times greater. In the instance of the pages 44-45, we're projecting it over a seam and a distance 50 times the length of the pointer. Yet still it seems that you're onto something worth studying further... which I will go back and try one more time after posting this note.

There are also some rules that may apply... or at least that's my present theory; learning the rules that the brothers have used in building this puzzle will be important.

Star Rule Number One: Hit or Miss
• a. If a single ray strikes any part of a letter, then that letter is noted and the color of the striking ray.
• b. If any other ray of the same color strikes that same letter again, it's not to be counted as a separate occurrence - that letter is only to be counted once.
• c. Multiple colored rays each striking the same letter once may count the letter, but only once.
• d. Once a ray has struck a letter, even just a glancing touch, that ray stops and doesn't penetrate onto another letter (some rays penetrate entire lines of text).
• e. The question remains as to what is the width of the thing delineating the ray - a .3mm lead, a sharpened No. 2 pencil or a blunt crayola?
Does this rule make any sense or should it be revised?

Kelly
For someone a little more dense (me!) would you be able to expose your method and explain further what you mean by "the triangulation formed from two rays?