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    Default Can we make a wiki or a summary of what has been found so far?

    I decided to give Fandango a fresh look. I have been reading through the posts, and realized that there really has not been a lot of progress made. For so many posts, there is not very much "solid" information there.

    What we do seem to have are the following:

    Words hidden in the borders:
    ISLAND
    NEPTUNE
    KEY
    CHANCE
    ECHO
    REFLECTON
    NORTH
    DREAMS
    MAP
    FIRE
    DESTINY
    WISDOM
    MOUNTAIN
    HARBOR
    FUTURE
    LOVE

    The blue letters give us: PACE FORTY SOUTH

    We know that the magic squares tell us to "C MASQUERADE HINT", but we don't know what that "hint" could be.

    Other than these simple solves, we really don't have much else to go on.

    The Points of Interest are not totally clear. We have some on the map at the back of the book, and then the same symbol is used and hidden in some illustrations. Are we to match these up? Or are they all different POIs?

    Are the POIs places that Fandango visits in the book? There is a lot of conjecture in regard to exactly where Fandango went. The official website tells us to "Follow the Fox", so I would think making a list of where he travelled to is important. I know there are some lists posted here, but there still seems to be a lot of different ideas about the locations.

    What else seems important?

    I think finding out the name of the old fop is important. The author seems to stress that the name is important. Even in the back of the book, at the end of the story, Fandango calls him, "What's-his-name". The page with this illustration also has a light blue "C". Why? All of the other colored letters in the borders are red and dark blue.

    I think the zodiac signs are important as the symbols are repeated throughout the book.

    We know that the license plate of 131491 is a simple substitution of ACADIA, but there is confusion as to the rules of National Parks. Is the key hidden in Acadia? Or is it on parts of Mount Dessert Island that are not part of the national park. The license plate seems to hint that it is actually in Acadia.

    What do we have that is definitive? Not much.... I think we need to concentrate efforts on one area at a time and solve it.

    Does anyone have anything to add? Comments? Summaries? A wiki? Something that isn't mentioned here?

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    GB,
    I think the FOP is the owner of Wingwood, the house shown in the background. His name was Stotesbury. Here is a link to a picture of him on a book cover, which resembles the illustration, legs crossed, holding a newspaper:
    http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/23...c34ba1e9af.jpg

    The rules/laws of national parks are not in question regarding geocaching or hiding objects in the park. Acadia does have something called "Earth Caching", but the site says:

    " This National Park Service-sponsored recreational activity leads you to some of the park's significant geological resources. Using your GPS unit and a set of clues obtained from this website and hidden along the journey, you can guide yourself to a series of sites in the park. Please note that geocaching with traditional physical caches is not permitted in the park."

    Another site, that gives instructions on how to geocache says,

    "Did you seek permission from the land owner or manager? If you place a cache on private land, you must ask permission before hiding your cache. If you place it on public lands, contact the land manager to find out about any rules or restrictions. Please note: You will be in violation of federal regulation by placing a cache in any area administered by the National Park Service (US). The National Park regulations are intended to protect the fragile environment, and historical and cultural areas found in the parks."

    The Stockwells do say that "No monument or structure needs to be moved, altered or otherwise disturbed in any way to solve the riddle or find the key." and to "obey all laws" I don't know if it was against the law in 2007 to place items in the park, but it is now...would they tell us if they know the laws have changed?

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    I think the FOP is most likely the owner of Wingwood also. The illustration of the building and the yacht mast definitely points to Wingwood, but the man does not look like Stotesbury. Stotesbury is always shown with a moustache, like in the link you provided. The man in the illustration does not have a moustache. It would have been easy to add a white moustache to that portrait...Why didn't they? Very strange...

    I would like to start a thread that has a list of everything that is solved so far. We know some locations, such as Cobblestone Bridge, Brown Gatehouse, etc... And we know what I posted above.

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    I might as jump in. I've seen a smattering of talk about exactly what we are expected to find, and it's my feeling that it is nothing physical at all. Here are some of the things people have said on the matter:

    "we're looking for a key with instructions to a safe deposit box"

    "we aren't looking for a key afterall. We're looking for a 'key' to the key to the safety deposit box."

    "there are 'pieces' that need put together to form the master riddle."

    "There are different components that all feed into the master riddle. ...by themselves they will not reveal the location, but together they will hold the solution."

    "The key to the master riddle can be solved by using your intellect and skill "

    "the use of English is required"
    "... a certain familiarity with the islandís interesting geography and history would be helpful."


    "the solution would get one to within about 100 feet"

    "The riddle and the location of the key can be solved with the book alone (remotely). "
    However, "One DOES need to go to Mount Desert Island to recover the 'lost key' (the Golden Key). "
    "This 'Key' contains a key to a safety deposit box along with instructions on how to retrieve the actual treasure."

    "The discovery of the 'key' will immediately be posted on the website."

    "the key is accessible 24/7"

    "...while the *key* is indeed hidden, it is not buried."
    "The *treasure* can be found year round. Maybe harder to find in the snow."
    hard to get to if you are in a wheelchair.
    not on private property.
    hard for someone to find accidentally.
    book contains many red herrings.

    "Nothing has been hidden or placed on private property."
    "Pel said his treasure isn't buried any way."

    (All of the above is quoted from things posted here on this forum. Some info is paraphrased from a radio interview which is linked to but which no longer exists online.)
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    Given all of that, I think it is important to separate the final treasure from the things we are to be looking for first, namely the Master Riddle. After finding the riddle, we need its solution. Using that solution will reveal a symbolic key -- or a "key" is needed to solve the riddle. Only after those virtual steps are complete will the path be clear to retrieve the physical key -- which either opens the safety deposit box, or is the final token hidden inside that box.

    Plenty of work has been done to analyze all of the images. I think the Master Riddle is hidden in the text of the story. We're told to "find clues visually and verbally" which might be a first for an armchair treasure hunt book if the paintings are only half of the challenge. Has any hunt ever depended on a message hidden in the text?

    One possibility is that the story events are the clues, such as where Fandango is at each step of his journey. Another possibility is that the actual text is hiding a coded message. Plenty of the word choices feel "off", like their letters are special, more than just forcing the poetry to rhyme.

    My final thought is that the Master Riddle will resolve to a website URL. This would be a way for the "key" (but not the KEY) to be hidden without being buried, and solveable from anywhere in the world. Also, how else could they state that "The discovery of the 'key' will immediately be posted on the website." If someone dug up a physical key, there would be a delay in reporting its finding, but access to a website (perhaps with a password) could be instantly reported. Oh, and accessible 24/7?

    Consider this snippets from the text:
    "...this wide world..." and "...a wide wet world..."
    Maybe it's my wild imagination, but I'm sensing an elbow nudge to reading that as the World Wide Web.

    Also, "the solution would get one to within about 100 feet" says to me that the Master Riddle does not give you a place to dig or a hole to reach into. The solution might be the address of a building, but that final 100 feet will be the difference between finding the "key" and recovering The Key.
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    On page 5 Fan says " I want to live a life the forest talks about long after I have graced the scene"..On page 54 he says" I want to live the life the whole world talks about,,, after I score that missing key" Sounds like a legend to me, whats a legend a list or "KEY" that explains the symbols on a map

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    i got curious about the wingwood house, so went to see whats there
    found 2 odd things, a logo that reminds me of somethings on pg 11
    finding out about the logo, took me to a primary color wheel
    dont know if any of this means anything, just thought it odd

    wingwood
    The E.T. Stotesbury Website
    nice blog, end of pg shows where wingwood was
    THE DOWNEAST DILETTANTE: STOTESURY SUMMERS: Part 3: Inside Wingwood House

    while walking around i noticed this and found it is a logo, for the collage of the atlantic
    if you return to map, you can see how close the logo and wingwood are
    http://goo.gl/maps/8FIyu

    checked the logo, and found it has a Official Color Palette
    CMYK color coding is used for color separation in print publications.
    The codes stand for the following:
    C = Cyan
    M = Magenta
    Y = Yellow
    K = Black
    Official Color Palette pg 3, and about the logo graphics
    http://www.coa.edu/assets/givetocoa/...es_1-23-13.pdf

    and just to make sure i was remembering the color wheel right
    http://w3.shorecrest.org/~Lisa_Peck/...ges/SubPri.gif

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    My thought is maybe Fandango is referring to Fox News.
    Quote Originally Posted by mainer1 View Post
    On page 5 Fan says " I want to live a life the forest talks about long after I have graced the scene"..On page 54 he says" I want to live the life the whole world talks about,,, after I score that missing key" Sounds like a legend to me, whats a legend a list or "KEY" that explains the symbols on a map

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    you have to remember fandango steals and cheats so he sounds more like a democrat that would watch CNN

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    catherwood,

    I have contemplated your idea about the key being discovered on the world wide web...You make some interesting points. But two things that the author said was that it would be difficult to find the key in the snow, and that a person in a wheelchair would have some difficulty getting it. So I believe that it is a real, physical key that will be found somewhere on the island. You also mentioned that the author said they would post on their website when the key was found, but what is odd about that statement was that they said they would post that information, "immediately". I know this may seem a bit far-fetched, but perhaps they have some kind of tracking device on the key... Unlikely, but possible. But their statement may have just meant that as soon as someone claims the key, they will post immediately.

    cw0909,
    I agree that colors are important. But I don't think the College of the Atlantic has anything to do with this hunt.

    I was hoping that by starting this thread, we could list the solves that have been made.

    How about we list the illustrations and say where they are...or the places that Fandango went to. I know there is some speculation for both. Not all of the places are "definite" from what I gather.

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    Thank you for the feedback. I'm still going to pursue the text, being the untapped source for the verbal portion of clues. I do wish they were not so cagey about using the term 'key' for something which leads to a key. IF the master riddle solution leads to the instructions to find the physical key, then one could say that the 'key' is that solution. The instructions can be found fron anywhere, anytime, but the key must be retrieved in person. My goal is to find that 'key', not the key. The 'key' is not what will be difficult to find from a wheelchair in the snow; the key is.

    A wiki would be a great idea, or a shared Google doc. I've already started my own documents, based on the info posted in threads here. There is FAR TOO MUCH data to put in a single linear thread here. You do have threads which list where Fandago travels, and lists of things in illustrations. Three pages of threads didn't take too long for me to comb thru, but there was a bit of fluff wedged in between, and they could use a bit of reorganization.

    (Back to the 'key' -- did you see how The Clock Without A Face ended? The prize was hidden in a post office. After eleven buried treasures, the last one was not buried at all. The solution was not precisely the location of the prize, but the location of where to claim the prize. It was technically only accurate to within 50 feet. Anyone could solve the riddle, but only a person with access to the postmaster could retrieve the package.)

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