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    I haven't full explored this observation, but on page 4, "And Nature! Myth and History! Understand?," stood out as awkward from the beginning, and I noticed that the first letters of each word anagram to "a human".

    I checked a few more lines and have found a couple more things.

    Taking the first letter of each word in the first line of the second paragraph on page 4, "It's not easy knowing who you truly are," anagrams to "I want key".

    Taking the first letter of each word fourth line of the same paragraph anagrams to "a thick tail."

    May be coincidence.

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    Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

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    Hello, everyone. This is my first post on the forum but I've been working with Fandango for a while now and am excited to join the discussion. This is the post that finally got me to register, as I've been working with this same passage myself.


    "...Is held - or is it trapped? - together. Man
    And Nature! Myth and history! Understand?
    I mean, there's more here than the surfaces."

    I felt this was begging me to look deeper as I read it as well. I came up with something I'd like to share, but I haven't been able to take it anywhere yet, so it might be nothing.

    I found that if you speak the words "Myth" and "history" together, you get:

    Mythhistory. What does that kind of sound like? Well, it may be confirmed on p.7 illustration, "(A) Mystery"

    Here are some clues and observations that lead me to think this may actually be something.

    1) The line above, "is it trapped? - together"
    2) The fact that "history" is lower case. "Nature" is upper-case but "history" is lower, implying that perhaps history doesn't stand on its own
    3) p.3. clue: "...by means of clues both visual and verbal"
    4) "A Mystery" possible confirmer on p.7 illustration as noted above
    5) p. 55 illustration "Two Together" implies that there's something important in the book that relates to putting things together (but I know there are a lot of different ideas on that subject)

    Also, just the fact that the section stands out as being awkward, as TheYellowWatchdog pointed out. It really stands out to me as being a big clue of some sort. There must be something there that's worth spending time on

    So, I don't know if it's anything, and the word "Mystery" doesn't get a whole lot done in terms of finding the key, but maybe this is a clue that's meant to stand out, and there are less obvious instances that use a similar method?

    One more thought -- the use of "Understand?" is part of what begs the reader to look deeper. I believe there are only 2 other instances of that word in the book, one on page 16 which doesn't really stand out to me, but the other on p. 21, where I also feel "begged" to look at the lobsterman's language more closely.

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    The phrasing of most of the book is so awkward. What it feels like is this:
    Like if you wanted to encode "Fandango" and just did a one-letter shift and came out with "Gboebohp" and made a sentence out of those letters that vaguely fit into the story... like "Grace, big otter, even big otters have problems" and just string tons of those together.

    I don't necessarily think that this is the kind of thing going on, but all of the text is just so convoluted and awkward that it wouldn't surprise me.

    Another line that stands out to me is "Forlorn, immense-invisible, saved-tragic" on page 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutchins View Post
    One more thought -- the use of "Understand?" is part of what begs the reader to look deeper. I believe there are only 2 other instances of that word in the book, one on page 16 which doesn't really stand out to me, but the other on p. 21, where I also feel "begged" to look at the lobsterman's language more closely.
    I can confirm a total of three occurances of 'understand':
    p.4 - And Nature! Myth and history! Understand?
    p.16 - Around and yipped, "I just don't understand."
    p.21 - Of otha people's propty, understand?"

    I agree with you. If there is to be a clue in the text, the stilted way of transcribing the local accent of the Lobsterman's speech is surely a camoflage for just such a clue. Beats me what that might be. Even 'yipped' feels like a forced clue, as if they chose a fox to be the hero specifically so they could work that word into the text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheYellowWatchdog View Post
    The phrasing of most of the book is so awkward. ...

    Another line that stands out to me is "Forlorn, immense-invisible, saved-tragic" on page 10.
    One of my approaches to this line was similar to something Hutchins noticed about another line in the text. Using first letters from the hyphenated words that the narrator tells us describe feeings about the key: ...glad- / Forlorn, immense-invisible, saved - tragic. First letters can be anagrammed to spell "is gift." Since the key is a gift, and one of the border phrases says "A Gift for the Wind," this seemed potentially significant. We had been told on p. 9 that Neptune used treasures to shape his deepest feelings, perhaps further reinforcing the important of this description of things someone would feel about the key.

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    I've noticed a lot of these things too, but of course some of the funkiness could be a result of the story being written more or less in iambic pentameter.

    I've also noticed that if you copy all of the chapter headings into a word doc and center the text you get a shape much like the green lantern symbol. Might not be significant, but if you also consider that the harlequin was a villainess in the green lantern comics and there's a character in Fandango named Harley Quinn...could be coincidence or just some red herring, but you never know.

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    Creepy. I'm looking deeper into TheYellowWatchdog's comment about the "Forlorn..." line on p.10. The line that follows warns that it's not easy to describe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_(poetry)

    "However some metres have an overall rhythmic pattern to the line that cannot easily be described using feet."

    I can't figure out if I love it or hate it when these things happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutchins View Post
    Creepy. I'm looking deeper into TheYellowWatchdog's comment about the "Forlorn..." line on p.10. The line that follows warns that it's not easy to describe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_(poetry)

    "However some metres have an overall rhythmic pattern to the line that cannot easily be described using feet."

    I can't figure out if I love it or hate it when these things happen
    There are a lot of feet with potential significance in the illustrations, and the last instructions tell us to read a second time for good measure - maybe these are puns and are trying to tell us something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Lion View Post
    There are a lot of feet with potential significance in the illustrations, and the last instructions tell us to read a second time for good measure - maybe these are puns and are trying to tell us something?
    "lots of feet"

    To enter a temple constructed wholly of invariable geometric proportions is to enter an abode of eternal truth

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