# Thread: Puzzle Still Active.....or Not?

1. I noticed where you had written that the location should be fun. I guess I always thought the whole area was fun, my one trip I have made there. It's a little far from Kentucky. You may be right though, in that he means a particular area. Are you of the mind set that I am that the location will be given to us in longitude and latitude and that we need to be putting numbers together? Of course, the 44 and 68 are confirmed ( as everyone already knows those two numbers) on page 30.

I worked for a long time on p.17 and accompanying pages last night, still wondering why we know so much about that page and what it means. There are tons of clues there, but don't know how to fit them together in my mind. I guess that's where I will stick for tonight.

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Originally Posted by rarbowen
Are you of the mind set that I am that the location will be given to us in longitude and latitude and that we need to be putting numbers together? Of course, the 44 and 68 are confirmed ( as everyone already knows those two numbers) on page 30.
I go back and forth on the longitude and latitude idea. On the one hand, it does seem a possibility with all the compass references and the 44 & 68 on Harley Quinn's map, as well as a possible tie-in with the "star code" that tells us "Numbers ope hidden treusre riddle." On the other hand, there are other clues that take us in other directions - Red/Yellow/ Book on the signs. The suggestion that numbers = letters in CMASQUERADE HINT, the 13149/ACADIA license plate. Also the use of anagrams: the red and blue border letters, and the 1653 =AFEC/FACE.

I've tried out a lot of different ideas, but I always find myself "proving" them by reading island history, old maps, photos, obscure facts...but now I'm trying to just stick with what's in the book. I read in another blog that the Portland sign (98 miles) and the Montreal sign (309), both pointing to the left, added up to 407, the elevation of Kebo Mountain, but this information is not in Fandango, you'd have to look up mountain heights to find this out, so I doubt that it is relevant to the Master Riddle. There has also been mention of a music theme, but again, not many of us know musical terms, and looking up #1 hits seems a bit off course to me.

A couple of observations I've made, which are probably not new to others, but I don't recall seeing these mentioned in other posts:

The keyboards on the Key page each have a "center key" - one is red and one is yellow.
On the Key page there is a blue eye in a wedge pointing to the right and a red eye in a wedge pointing to the left. Does this somehow tie in with the eye color of the characters?
In the text, color is only mentioned three times. Pg 18 "gone weird and red," pg 28 "Then quick and brown," and pg 38, "of yellow pine and spruce flexed at the borders." This last one seems particularly relevant because 1) it refers to borders, and 2) yellow pine does not grow in Maine - it's a southern tree. I admit I had to look that up, but the fact that they specifically used yellow in a phrase about borders, makes me wonder.
There are a lot of palindrome words in the text, and at least two places where the first letter of each line spells something: pg 31 MYIFOOTI, and pg 39 IITSFETA, which, unless the Master Riddle includes cheese, requires a little anangramming (like 1653/FACE) to IT IS FATE.

I do think it still could be longitude and latitude, or possibly some cipher using letters and numbers...or a bunch of other possibilities! But I do think it will either point us to a spot (long/lat), or spell out a location, like Masquerade did. Good luck! I hope somebody find this thing before Thanksgiving 2020!

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Originally Posted by thedawailey
In the text, color is only mentioned three times.
You missed a fourth: "...on the crest Of a green wave..." on p.49 (and not counting the reference to Neptune as "Old Green Gills" on p.52), and maybe another (if you want to count "In a white mess of water" on p.54 and "There's no inferno -- just the black incision" on p.36 as colors).

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Originally Posted by catherwood
You missed a fourth: "...on the crest Of a green wave..." on p.49 (and not counting the reference to Neptune as "Old Green Gills" on p.52), and maybe another (if you want to count "In a white mess of water" on p.54 and "There's no inferno -- just the black incision" on p.36 as colors).
Thank you! I did miss the green, but didn't count black and white as colors, although that might be a mistake. Weird & red/ Yellow pines/ Quick & brown/ Green wave (or gills)/ White mess/ Black incision. Although Green doesn't figure much into any color schemes already identified (blue =red/red=yellow/black & white=book; the star code (blue, pink, orange, yellow, red); the red, blue and yellow "flag" on the cover, for example. It is interesting, though, that green is the color of the 0 and the 6 on the Old Lady's square, which are the "brackets" to the star code of 1=blue, 2=pink, 3=orange, 4=yellow, and 5=red.

Thanks for pointing these out. I tend to miss things because I sometimes skim over instead of really read. My teachers always told me I wasn't paying attention!

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Don't forget Harley Quinn i.e. harlequin = of varying colors or multicolored...I always felt the solution was buried in the multicolored "U" blocks in the borders of pages 19 and 47.

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Originally Posted by morpheus
Don't forget Harley Quinn i.e. harlequin = of varying colors or multicolored...I always felt the solution was buried in the multicolored "U" blocks in the borders of pages 19 and 47.
Yes, they are tempting, especially with the colored "E's" - one in each border of pg 19, red, yellow, blue and green.

7. I agree. I think a major clue is in the borders of those two pages and I believe they are done with a polybius square...if I could just figure out the code. I've been working on just that for two days now.

8. Great catch of the colors in the text. i had not thought about that before. I know music, but only the things I have read previously are all I have found and they seem rather remote. It is curious about the keyboards, though. I keep thinking that will fit in someway. I also think there is more work needed on the star code. I have to really "try" to come up with the same words that have been found before. I have copied every page and can increase them up to 400% on Powerpoint, and then, using a fine line to stay in line with his colors, many of the lines touch upon different letters that the ones we have. I am going to do more work on these when time allows.

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Originally Posted by thedawailey
Yes, they are tempting, especially with the colored "E's" - one in each border of pg 19, red, yellow, blue and green.
Reading this forum through the years, I was always surprised there wasn't more discussion regarding those "U"s and "E"s on pages 19 and 47 (1947, year of the fire at Acadia). If it is the riddle, it would certainly qualify as 'hidden.' They are incredibly detailed and seem out of place when you compare them to the other illustrations. Also, there are so many color blocks (the books, the piano keys, the road signs, the colored numbers) in the other illustrations, you have to wonder if they are connected, perhaps by 'numbers' as the clue suggests.

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Originally Posted by rarbowen
Great catch of the colors in the text. i had not thought about that before. I know music, but only the things I have read previously are all I have found and they seem rather remote. It is curious about the keyboards, though. I keep thinking that will fit in someway. I also think there is more work needed on the star code. I have to really "try" to come up with the same words that have been found before. I have copied every page and can increase them up to 400% on Powerpoint, and then, using a fine line to stay in line with his colors, many of the lines touch upon different letters that the ones we have. I am going to do more work on these when time allows.
I responded to your post in the Star Code thread just to keep information compartmentalized