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    I heard back from the person who sent me the email, and he says that he looked up Kam Caskgn on a webite, and found that I wrote the address wrong! LOL! I dont know for sure if I was wrong or the place I got the address from was wrong, I sent it to 1169, was it 1196? I can't remember now. Anyway, they were kind enough to send it to the correct address. I hope to here back soon!

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    I meant Cam Kaskgn***

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    I hope to here back soon!
    I suspect you'll get a "return to sender," like I did the other day.
    "...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve."

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    In response to a letter I sent last week, I received the following e-mail today from the jeweler who fashioned the golden apple:

    Kris,
    I have not heard from Cam Kaskgn probably since 1982 or 1983.
    I checked our local area but no Kaskgn found.
    Let me know if you find him. I'm curious if anyone solved the riddle.
    Jeff Juhas
    "...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve."

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest_blight
    In response to a letter I sent last week, I received the following e-mail today from the jeweler who fashioned the golden apple:

    Kris,
    I have not heard from Cam Kaskgn probably since 1982 or 1983.
    I checked our local area but no Kaskgn found.
    Let me know if you find him. I'm curious if anyone solved the riddle.
    Jeff Juhas
    Do you have their address? We should find out if "Cam" was indeed
    a man, or a woman, or two people. Cam Kaskgn is definately not
    his (or her) real name. Ask if the jeweler knows of a canceled check
    or something that may have a real name on it.

    This may sound stupid, but I'm fairly certian that the author's parents
    live in the area, even if "Cam" may have moved away.
    I doubt you'll find a bigger fan of Armchair Treasure Hunts than me.

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    Do you have their address?
    I wrote to Herkner Jewelers in Grand Rapids; Mr. Juhas kindly responded to me via e-mail. My strong impression is that he is just as in the dark as we are about the status of the hunt. I asked him to please let me know if he should remember anything that might prove useful. But it has been 22 years since he was in contact with Kaskgn, so I seriously doubt he will know more.

    We should find out if "Cam" was indeed a man, or a woman, or two people.
    The reply mentioned "him." Good enough for me.

    Cam Kaskgn is definately not his (or her) real name. Ask if the jeweler knows of a canceled check or something that may have a real name on it.
    I agree that Kaskgn must be a pseudonym. A cancelled check would be a miracle after 23 years. If anyone has one (which I very much doubt), it would be Preusser Jewelers, and I would not ask them to do something so unethical as to share the details of a financial transaction (although you are free to do so).

    This may sound stupid, but I'm fairly certian that the author's parents live in the area, even if "Cam" may have moved away.
    Not stupid at all. But consider how old they must be by now. Say for the sake of argument that Kaskgn was 23 when he wrote TGAT (see p. 30; he attended two colleges). That's a lower bound. Say his parents are/were 20 years older (again, lower bound). that would put them in their mid-60s today. More realistically, we know Kaskgn was old enough to afford custom jewelry in 1982, and his parents probably were more than 20 years older. Unlikely.

    Or, maybe I'm completely wrong (it's been known to happen!). What evidence do you have?
    "...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve."

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    Quote Originally Posted by "forest_blight"[quote
    My strong impression is that he is just as in the dark as we are about the status of the hunt. I asked him to please let me know if he should remember anything that might prove useful. But it has been 22 years since he was in contact with Kaskgn, so I seriously doubt he will know more.
    He said that he couldnt find anyone in the community named "Kaskgn", so
    he obviously still thinks that's his real name. Which it isn't.

    Cam Kaskgn is definately not his (or her) real name. Ask if the jeweler knows of a canceled check or something that may have a real name on it.
    I agree that Kaskgn must be a pseudonym. A cancelled check would be a miracle after 23 years. If anyone has one (which I very much doubt), it would be Preusser Jewelers, and I would not ask them to do something so unethical as to share the details of a financial transaction (although you are free to do so).
    Many artists keep track of who purchases their works. If the scupltor did
    that, he could have it on record. Art dealers pursue such things regularly.
    I certianly wouldnt ask a businessman to do something unethical.

    "Cam Kaskgn" himself told me that his pseudonym was a "simple substitution cypher."
    This may sound stupid, but I'm fairly certian that the author's parents live in the area, even if "Cam" may have moved away.
    Not stupid at all. But consider how old they must be by now. Say for the sake of argument that Kaskgn was 23 when he wrote TGAT (see p. 30; he attended two colleges). That's a lower bound. Say his parents are/were 20 years older (again, lower bound). that would put them in their mid-60s today. More realistically, we know Kaskgn was old enough to afford custom jewelry in 1982, and his parents probably were more than 20 years older. Unlikely.

    Or, maybe I'm completely wrong (it's been known to happen!). What evidence do you have?
    "Cam" told me his age at one point. He should be about 41-42 now. I know many
    70+ seniors who have more energy in them than I do, so it's not like we're dealing
    with the Crypt Keeper, yet.
    I doubt you'll find a bigger fan of Armchair Treasure Hunts than me.

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    "Cam" told me his age at one point. He should be about 41-42 now. I know many 70+ seniors who have more energy in them than I do, so it's not like we're dealing with the Crypt Keeper, yet.
    While it is *possible* to earn a bachelors degree by age 18 or 19, it is highly unlikely. I guess every distribution has that upper tail, though...

    "Cam Kaskgn" himself told me that his pseudonym was a "simple substitution cypher."
    and (earlier)

    ...he offered the tidbit that "CAM KASKGN" was a "simple substitutiion cypher" of his real name, and not a scrambled word. I think it's not an accident that it's the same number of letters as "MAC INTOSH".
    Simple if you know the key! Unfortunately there probably isn't enough information to unlock it. The only English word that has the same pattern is ALWAYS, but I'm sure there are many surnames that follow the same pattern. As for it being the same number of letters as "Mac Intosh," maybe that's a clue that C=M and M=C in the substitution cipher.

    Hey, here's a thought. We could round up a 1980s phone book from Grand Rapids and see how many surnames match the KASKGN pattern. I may do that in my copious free time (!). I'll start with the "Mac"s.
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    Has anyone run his name through something like Decrypto? I would, but no longer have it on my pc. I'd try A=O. Maybe his first name is Tom or something simple like that.

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    Has anyone run his name through something like Decrypto?
    I tried two online decrypting utilities. That's how I discovered ALWAYS.
    "...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve."

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