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    Default Hummingbird Revelation- p.41 and the importance of p.64

    I shared the following info in the chat room last nite. The partial solution appears to be very significant, but its left to you to determine the importance, as I do not know what to do next. I havent traveled, and don't have a token. I present my findings in the order I found them.

    Part 1. On p.41, place a transparency over the page, and trace the left side of the page, from the top of the countertop and following the inner frame of the picture, down, then along the top of the big green root on the left, then over to the big green root on the right. Trace the top of the big green root on the right, then up, following the inner frame. To me, this best resembles three sides of the state of Iowa. The oddity of the roots in this picture suggested to me that there was a deeper image within, and I desperately wanted to find a state. Iowa was my best fit. You be the judge. I later interpreted the markings on the Pickensrooter's wings to be "I" and a sideways "A", which would be the state abbreviation. This is either validation, or forcing a solution. You decide.

    Part 2. On p.64, we are given 6 fairies with lines of motion and "fairy dust". Line up a new transparency over this page, making sure the bottom of your transparency is lined up with the bottom of the book, and trace the lines, dots, and fairies. Rotate this transparency 180 degrees, and place it over p.41, with the transparency starting at the very top of the page. Line up the bottom of the right line with the top end of the dark branch on the right side of the page ( just above the "o" from "with on(e) piece...".

    My interpretation: The line on the right is intended to lock the overlay into position. It looks like a natural extension of the dark branch. The second line comes from the tree's nose (he can smell something?), and circles the hummingbird on the flour tin. The third line circles in front of the tree's mouth (he is telling us something?), and points to a place on the page, that may indicate the city. Based on the Iowa overlay, the city would be West Bend, Iowa. Google it. You will come to the same realization that I did, with just the first hit. The fourth line starts on the tree's cheek, and ends on the rim of the sock (conjecture as to the precise token location?). The fifth line starts at the top of the salt, and ends at the pointing finge of the Pickensrooter. The sixth line starts at the tree's eye (he sees something?) and ends on the side of the salt. From all of this, I believe that MS has provided up to 6 pointing clues to determine the precise location, and given the state abbreviation. All clues were provided "by fairies".

    Part 3. I was unsure what some of this meant, and looked to the second hummingbird on p.55 to help. The text speaks of a grotto, and if you havent Googled the city yet, it is home to the largest grotto in the U.S.. There is a "plaza" area in one of the pictures, showing a brown and tan checkerboard area, like the sock on p.41. There are "stations" on one side of the grotto, with circles positioned just like the buttons on the Kootenstoopit's shirt.

    Summary: I think there are more clues to be found before the final location is revealed. The grotto is 3 city blocks long, and the token might be near the grotto, but not in it. All of the evidence has been compelling, but I have not found any text reference to confirm an exact location.

    Food for thought: The p.64 overlay may fit elsewhere on the page. I found some potential fits, but no interpretations. I even tried lining up the "fairy dust" dots with some of the dots on p.41, and the centers of the leaf clusters on the teacup. I have tried the overlay on other pages, but not rigorously. Also, the breaking points on the teacup and the leftover piece each appear to point to letters of the poem in the border: PIER?. Finally, look at the top left of the page, at the big brown leaf in the corner, and imagine someone's hair. The look at the dark branch below it, and picture a nose. The small brown leaves above seem to be eyes. This appears to be a profile of someone we should be able to identify.... is it MS, or someone that may shed a new clue?

    I offer all of this to you, the forum, as I have been unable to advance my theories, and it may spark an idea for others. Please post your opinions, and likes or dislikes of the ideas presented.

    Good luck to all!

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    Great job! I believe this is how the tokens will be won - with simple techniques that are easy to understand, but must be creatively applied. I tried this out and it is awesome that the hummingbird is circled.

    The branches on 41 do look a lot like the east side of Iowa. It probably is the best fit for a state. If it is Iowa, IMO West Bend would be right about where the sun on the flour tin is. I think the third line would end more to the south, maybe around Webster city. There is a town called Jewell just south of Webster city. Hmm...

    Thank you for sharing this. It makes the forum a better place when we can share our ideas and not criticize and slam each other.

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    Actually, I have looked at that same pg 41 image and yep,,,reminded me of Iowa too. Got a tracing on a transparency in my file ... just looked for it and yep, there it was. Part of the tracing is almost exactly the same,,,the eastern boundary line south to north matches the line you refer to on the left as you follow the "root" (could be a "branch" too). Didn't even have to reduce or enlarge. The right side is not as distinct a match, but close.

    I tried to copy the image on this link into here....but it changes into something way to big to reckon with....so suggest anyone who is wondering,,,just ck out the link,,,and take your transparency tracing with you....heck you can lay it up over the screen and see the match. Just give it a quarter turn to the right.

    http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/iowa.gif
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    foozeball2k3
    I am truly impressed! I will try the overlay as soon as I have time to sit down and study it. I have been thinking that overlays are going to be a big part of the secrets in this book and it looks like you could be close to collecting this token. Everything you said seems to fit easily, which leads me to believe your theory is correct.
    Thanks for sharing. I have been unable to visit the forum for two weeks because my work hours have been so long. Hopefully, I can catch up today (it's my day off). See you later. -P
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    Great!, overlays and the negative space between images are perfect places to hide things. On page 19 - the tools - there are two perfect triangles one on the bottom and one on the right side. A while ago I created a overlay with the angles of the pentagram on the top, and these two triangles, well actually alot more of the tools, plumbob and border, but one thing I noticed that every picture I placed it on lined up with the angles of that pentagram and other angles of this page by moving it around. Wether it was Pooks eyes, a creature or various other items they all seemed to match this overlay like it was some master tool. There was a time I thought that the open box that lay before Zac in the dream meant "lay a box in front of Zac" or onto things and that is what fills it, and I thought the dimensions were in the tools on 19.

    A bit off topic perhaps but I like the visual and find this to be something that has not been utilized to the full extent.

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    I remember MS saying somewhere to just look at a map. So, this would make sense regarding the outline of Iowa. Great work!

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    Default grotto excellent hiding place

    I was at the grotto a few months ago. It would be a great place to hide a token in plain sight. The walls are made of all different kinds of bits and pieces of rock and glass. I'm not sure if it would be allowed to hide something actually on part of the grotto tho. Wouldn't want a swarm of people picking over the walls. It was an incredible place to visit at any rate.

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    Thanks for the wonderful feedback everyone!

    Reckhardt, thanks for the candid thoughts on a more likely city. I got hooked on West Bend (for obvious reasons), and never looked back. I will try to dig deeper into the area you mentioned. I am going to post something else I worked on for p.33 (in the relevant thread) but it is unrelated to this page.

    Void, as person interested in triangles, the top of p.77 has a perfect triangle, in the space inside the wing of the dragon.

    Its encouraging to see others are still working on the clues!

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