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    Default New thread: Using Photoshop as an ATT tool

    Hello everyone!
    I'd like to start a new thread designed to give some (of us) newbies a chance to use tools such as Photoshop with ATT. Scanning can be left to the user, but once an image is in, there are many tricks to manipulating that image easily.

    Some ideas might be: How to make a given color or background transparent (for use in overlay solutions); how to enhance or shift color balances to make items more visible; how to do "folded pages" without bending your book, or even how to pull the images from a stereogram. I think this would be a great asset to all players. On the surface it would seem to bend the rules a little ("... no special tools needed...") but I view it as a way to do things electronically that you could do manually with a copy machine, scissors, or a dozen spare books...

    Thoughts, concerns, criticisms??

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    I think its a good idea.

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    Great idea! I'll start it off with a really dumb question! Is Photoshop another software product I need to purchase like Microsoft Office? Or is it a feature that is usually installed on your computer when you buy one?

    I have Windows XP. Hate to be so dumb about this.....but have never used photoshop and I'm just getting familiar with XP. Start us off with where/what to buy.................thanks!
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    dehlen, see my post to your other thread about scanners. You can get a copy of Photoshop when you purchase the Canon LIDE50 scanner. It's a great deal.

    It is the "lite" version of Photoshop called "Photoshop Elements", but it can do aything you would want to do with it.

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    Again, Rusty - thanks! Read your other post and it sounds like a good starting place.

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    If anyone needs any help using Photoshop, give me a holler, I'm a web designer and I have been using it for 10 years.

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    deboriole, the one thing I seem to be having alot of trouble with is making a background transparent. When I scan in, I use 1200 DPI to get a good copy (yes, it makes HUGE files!) then work with it...

    Examples of what I am trying to do or where to use it:

    1. "The Nomenclature of Fairies" cover: I'd like to start by replacing various colors in the cover with either the BG color or transparent.

    2. I've been playing with the two mushrooms on P2 of ATT. In particular, the lines on the stems *look* like a possible overlay handwriting, but I am having trouble getting one of the two images to have just the writing on it, and no other BG.

    3. Knew I'd forget an important one! A post a while ago talked of a photoshop method of degrading a stereogram to view the images within. I know that so far no one has claimed any stereograms in ATT, but the technique might be handy to know!

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    Dehlen:
    Photoshop is available in the lite or professional versions. I think that for our uses, either will work fine, but the pro version is alot more granular than the LE versions. Its also quite a bit more pricey!

    What is nice is that there are versions available for both the Mac & PC, and that makes the steps we use somewhat cross platform capable..

    Hope that helps!

    Drom

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    To practice, I'd suggets the "page fold" on p77:

    1. SCan in the border areas, left, right, top, bottom. I called them p77v1, p77v2, p77v3, & p77v4.

    2. Next, with all saved, open up just two you wish to work with. I used left & right, or p77v1 & v3. File, Open, <filename>.

    3. From the file menu, create a new canvas. Make sure your width and height will allow for putting both pieces on at one time, so I suggest on these 3 times the width of one scan (aka p77v1) and about 1.5 times the height.

    4. Go to the first image. Click anywhere in the image. HIt CTRL-A (select ALL). Hit CTRL-C (copy). Move mouse to the left side of the NEW canvas and hit CTRL-V (paste). Now from the toolbar select the MOVE tool (hover over each until you see it; its the one with an arrowhead in upper left and a compass cross in the center).

    5. Move this by a standard drag & drop method to the left side of the canvas to make room for the right piece.

    6. Now go to the second image. Click anywhere in image. Hit CTRL-A. Hit CTRL-C. Move to the right side of the new canvas and hit CTRL-V. Now, with the MOVE tool again, left click on the new image and drag it around a bit until you are happy with how it fits against the left piece. If you've done it right, you should see the words in the white writing.

    Sometimes (like now) you may have a new image which is orientated wrong. To fix this, select Image, Rotate Canvas, then pick how you want to rotate the canvas.


    This was a very simple demonstration but one that shows the technique of using photoshop without having to destroy your book!

    Drom

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    Quote Originally Posted by drominore
    When I scan in, I use 1200 DPI to get a good copy (yes, it makes HUGE files!) then work with it...
    You really only need to go about 300 to 600 dpi. That is better resolution than you will actually need. The web only displays 72 dpi. If you still want to scan that big, I suggest going to Image... Image Size... and changing it to 300 dpi. Much easier to work with.

    Quote Originally Posted by drominore
    1. "The Nomenclature of Fairies" cover: I'd like to start by replacing various colors in the cover with either the BG color or transparent.
    There are two ways to approach this.

    If you want to eliminate the background...

    Hold down the eraser tool from the tool menu (sixth one down in the left column) and 2 more options will pop up. Choose the one with the scissors. This will remove everything you touch and make it transparent (it will look like a checkerboard but don't worry, that just means it is transparent). You can try using the eraser with the star (*) but one click will wipe out everything of the same color. This could work VERY well but it could also erase something you meant to keep. You can always use "undo!"

    If you want to try doing it by color...

    Go to Image... Adjustments > Selective Color and move the little scales around to change the color. The default pulldown is "Reds" as you can see, so you will only be changing colors with red in them -- which is actually what you want!

    Quote Originally Posted by drominore
    2. I've been playing with the two mushrooms on P2 of ATT. In particular, the lines on the stems *look* like a possible overlay handwriting, but I am having trouble getting one of the two images to have just the writing on it, and no other BG.
    For this I would suggest using that eraser tool with the the scissors and drawing around so you only have what you need left.

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    3. Knew I'd forget an important one! A post a while ago talked of a photoshop method of degrading a stereogram to view the images within. I know that so far no one has claimed any stereograms in ATT, but the technique might be handy to know!
    Hmmm I'm not sure about this one. I know how to MAKE a stereogram by offsetting layers, but I'm not sure there is a way to separate an existing one.

    Good luck!

    Deb

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