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    Default The K2 Solution

    The K2 ciphertext:
    Code:
    VFPJUDEEHZWETZYVGWHKKQETGFQJNCE
    GGWHKK?DQMCPFQZDQMMIAGPFXHQRLG
    TIMVMZJANQLVKQEDAGDVFRPJUNGEUNA
    QZGZLECGYUXUEENJTBJLBQCRTBJDFHRR
    YIZETKZEMVDUFKSJHKFWHKUWQLSZFTI
    HHDDDUVH?DWKBFUFPWNTDFIYCUQZERE
    EVLDKFEZMOQQJLTTUGSYQPFEUNLAVIDX
    FLGGTEZ?FKZBSFDQVGOGIPUFXHHDRKF
    FHQNTGPUAECNUVPDJMQCLQUMUNEDFQ
    ELZZVRRGKFFVOEEXBDMVPNFQXEZLGRE
    DNQFMPNZGLFLPMRJQYALMGNUVPDXVKP
    DQUMEBEDMHDAFMJGZNUPLGESWJLLAETG
    The K2 solution:

    IT WAS TOTALLY INVISIBLE HOWS THAT POSSIBLE ? THEY USED THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD X THE INFORMATION WAS GATHERED AND TRANSMITTED UNDERGRUUND TO AN UNKNOWN LOCATION X DOES LANGLEY KNOW ABOUT THIS ? THEY SHOULD ITS BURIED OUT THERE SOMEWHERE X WHO KNOWS THE EXACT LOCATION ? ONLY WW THIS WAS HIS LAST MESSAGE X THIRTY EIGHT DEGREES FIFTY SEVEN MINUTES SIX POINT FIVE SECONDS NORTH SEVENTY SEVEN DEGREES EIGHT MINUTES FORTY FOUR SECONDS WEST X LAYER TWO

    The final 'S' in the ciphertext was omitted from the statue. The artist, Sanborn, finally noticed this fact back in April of this year and contacted the Yahoo group people about it. Since 1999, the end of this section was thought to decode to "ID BY ROWS". When it was finally learned the proper solution ended in "X LAYER TWO", it was big news in the media.

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    I doubt that this will come as a surprise, but the coordinate listed directs you to Langley, and quite probably the Kryptos statue itself.

    These are some pictures extracted from Google Maps. The Green Arrow is at 38 degrees 57 minutes 6.5 seconds N, 77 degrees 8 minutes 44 seconds W.
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    So how was this one solved? was it the same kind of cipher as the first one?
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    This one was indeed solved via the same method as K1. The keywords were 'KRYPTOS' and 'ABSCISSA'. Now, once K1 was found, this one becomes even easier. The first keyword is the same, and the second one is even shorter and with repeated letters.

    The Kryptos appears to be progressive and multi-layered. The meaning of the K1's keyword 'palimpsest' hints at the multi-layered nature. Now for K2 we add the idea of 'abscissa'. There could be different interpretations, but an abscissa is part of a map coordinate.

    As you pointed out, the coordinates given in K2 point to a spot very close to Kryptos itself. This was done in 1990, so you have to guess whether the coordinates were supposed to be for the statue, or for some other exact spot in the courtyard. Recent info from contacts inside the CIA confirm that the exact location of those coordinates points to nothing, just a grassy area of the courtyard. But, there are supposedly underground offices in that same area. You be the judge. Was it another clue, or just imprecise GPS readings from a non-technical artist using and early GPS device.

    'X Layer Two' may have to be considered.

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    If you know the artist and the sculpture,
    you know that the artist landscaped the surrounding
    gardens, duck pond, and assorted rocks and
    petrified slabs of wood.

    It is not out of reason to assume the entire
    area to be helpful with the solve for the meta-
    puzzle.

    Simply because the coordinates are not directly
    on the sculpture, does not mean they are not
    pointing to where he wants them to point.

    "Use the clues around to help solve"

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    Unfortunately, unless one of us Twelevers is a member of the agency, verifying the exact coordinates is problematic.

    How about layer two? What could that mean?

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    "In part of the code that's been deciphered, I refer to an act that took place when I was at the agency and a location that's on the grounds of the agency. So... you have to decipher the piece and then go to the agency and find that place. There are, for example, longitude and latitude coordinates on the piece, which refer to locations of the agency. ...an act that I could have carried out. I refer to something I'd done out there."
    - James Sanborn - Excerpt from an interview in Wired Magazine.

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    Interesting and convoluted. HMMM. More research to be done, Lafitte
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    again, two more cents from sol...
    ABSCISSA... kinda sounds like absessed. this could point to the letters that are carved differently
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    quoted from the challenge topic:
    Quote Originally Posted by hollidaze39
    well i did find this:....interesting about the "omitted" letter...

    For more than a decade, amateur and professional cryptographers have been trying to decipher an encrypted sculpture that sits on the grounds of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. Three-fourths of the sculpture has already been solved.
    ...
    Kryptos, which means "hidden" in Greek, sits outside a cafeteria on the CIA grounds and consists of a large block of petrified wood standing upright, with a copper plate scrolling out of the wood like a sheet of paper in the shape of an S. The sculpture contains approximately 1,800 letters carved out of the copper plate in four sections, some of which form an encryption table used for deciphering the rest of the sculpture.
    So far, no problem.
    But now Jim Sanborn, the artist who created the Kryptos sculpture, says he made a mistake... It all comes down to a letter that Sanborn left out of the sculpture. He only recently realized the omission was leading sleuths down a misguided path.
    Ouch! That's got to hurt, especially if you're one of these guys:
    In 1999, California computer scientist Jim Gillogly solved three of the four sections. A CIA analyst named David Stein reached the same solution for those sections a year earlier, but his work remained unknown to anyone outside the CIA until Gillogly came forward with his solution.
    The first section of the sculpture was decrypted to a poetic phrase created by Sanborn. The second refers to something possibly buried on the CIA grounds: Does Langley know about this? They should: It's buried out there somewhere. The third section is text from archaeologist Howard Carter's diary describing the opening of a door in King Tut's tomb Nov. 26, 1922.

    The fourth part has remained stubbornly unsolved. The sculpture received a lot of renewed interest last year after Wired News published a story discussing author Dan Brown's references to it in the book jacket for The Da Vinci Code. Since then, thousands of new sleuths have been obsessing over the code. Chris Hanson, co-moderator of the Yahoo group and a Colorado programmer who runs a 3-D landscape software company called 3D Nature, created a model of the CIA's building complex, complete with landscaped grounds, to study the sculpture's surroundings for clues. Another member of the group even reportedly quit his job to devote time to cracking the code.
    It was pretty cool that the omitted letter accidently produced plausible plaintext; ID BY ROWS For years they thought it was correct and had no idea what it meant. Now they now, after adding in the missing S that it reads X LAYER TWO. And they still have no idea what it means.

    From cthree's quote by Sanborn, maybe it refers to a buried treasure (yeah!). Yet, without access to the place, all we can do is theorize. Unless the coordinates refer to one of the pieces of sculpture to which we have photos.

    Solarus, to which letters are you referring? The DYAHR letters?

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