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    I was inspired by Beeblebrox's idea to use the first 7 letters of K3 instead of the first 5 letters to extract a key. The one feature of those first 7 letters that does not play a part in his solution is the letter grouping. Two letters, two letters, one letter, two letters. That feature is so intentional and obvious, it hurts.

    I found a way to derive the number 13 from those letters in two ways; two binary codes that each produce the number 13.



    Taking the raised letters as ones and the non-raised letters as zero gives 001101, the binary code for the number 13. Taking the grouping of two letters as a one, and a single letter as a zero again gives 1101, the binary code for the number 13.

    I find fact that there are two codings of the number 13 at the start of K3 compelling. I am still searching for a meaning...

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    Looking at those letter groupings only, I see a Morse Q ( _ _ . _ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdshackleford View Post
    I was inspired by Beeblebrox's idea to use the first 7 letters of K3 instead of the first 5 letters to extract a key. The one feature of those first 7 letters that does not play a part in his solution is the letter grouping. Two letters, two letters, one letter, two letters. That feature is so intentional and obvious, it hurts.

    I found a way to derive the number 13 from those letters in two ways; two binary codes that each produce the number 13.



    Taking the raised letters as ones and the non-raised letters as zero gives 001101, the binary code for the number 13. Taking the grouping of two letters as a one, and a single letter as a zero again gives 1101, the binary code for the number 13.

    I find fact that there are two codings of the number 13 at the start of K3 compelling. I am still searching for a meaning...

    -Rusty
    I kept coming up with 13 too (as I couldn't resist seeing binary), or 26 if you add
    a trailing 0, but I must admit I never noticed the groupings as 2-2-1-2 -- that's
    excellent!

    If K4 is a Vig (at least in part), then perhaps 13 is the period. If you compute the
    various ICs on K4, nothing looks good. ~However~, if you remove the KR at the
    end of line 1 and the YP at the end of line 3 (possible palimpsest leak-through of
    the Tableau?), and run the IC calc again, the best fit is 13 -- with an I.C. of I
    believe .053. It also leaves you with 93 characters (3 x 31), lending itself to an
    easy transposition. --Beeblebrox

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslug View Post
    Looking at those letter groupings only, I see a Morse Q ( _ _ . _ )
    The K3 plaintext ends with the question "Can you see anything Q". Most people think the Q represents the question mark. "Can you see anything ?".

    The real translation to K3 may be "Can you see anything 13?"

    The letter Q may refer to this clue.

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    I made this point over in my "Paraphrasing Howard Carter" thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by rdshackleford View Post
    So, I don't think the reason for adding X and Q is as simple as that he needed two more characters. He already had 336 characters before changing the tense of 'were' and 'causing'. He changed the tense of those words specifically to allow him to use X and Q.

    Now I really want to know the answer to the seconds part of this question. Why? Why add X and Q where he did?
    This new key may help answer that question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdshackleford View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sslug View Post
    Looking at those letter groupings only, I see a Morse Q ( _ _ . _ )
    The K3 plaintext ends with the question "Can you see anything Q". Most people think the Q represents the question mark. "Can you see anything ?".

    The real translation to K3 may be "Can you see anything 13?"

    The letter Q may refer to this clue.

    -Rusty
    As Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet, shouldn't it be "Can you see anything 17?"
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    Randy,

    That is very cool! From me I see "I WA" which could be "I Washington" or "One Way". Also as a question does this place the K3 text between Qs - one at the beginning as binary and one at the end as a letter?

    The letters mark the beginning as an END, but the real end is marked with a letter Q, but the beginning actually tells you to see a binary Q. A Twist of can you see anything Q?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslug View Post
    Looking at those letter groupings only, I see a Morse Q ( _ _ . _ )
    BTW, very cool observation, Sluggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suelough View Post
    As Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet, shouldn't it be "Can you see anything 17?"
    That brings up a troubling question. Can this new Q/13 theory possibly be correct if D.H.Lawrence/Hardy/DH is correct, or vice versa? I believe they may be mutually exclusive possibilities.

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    I have been following this as I find it intriguing. But I just gotta ask.

    Who the hell is Randy?

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