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    Default KR YP

    Ok some ideas:

    Check out k4.

    Code:
    ___________________________OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    Notice this:

    ____________________________OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

    Now look at the Vig table:

    Code:
    _ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE
    AKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPT
    BRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTO
    CYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOS
    DPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSA
    ETOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSAB
    FOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABC
    GSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCD
    HABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDE
    IBCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEF
    JCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFG
    KDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGH
    LEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHI
    MFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJ
    NGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJL
    OHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLM
    PIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMN
    QJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQ
    RLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQU
    SMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUV
    TNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVW
    UQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWX
    VUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZ
    WVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZK
    XWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKR
    YXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRY
    ZZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYP
    _ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE
    Notice:

    _ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE
    AKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPT
    BRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTO
    CYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOS
    DPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSA
    ETOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSAB
    FOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABC
    GSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCD
    HABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDE
    IBCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEF
    JCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFG
    KDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGH
    LEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHI
    MFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJ
    NGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJL
    OHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLM
    PIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMN
    QJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQ
    RLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQU
    SMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUV
    TNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVW
    UQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWX
    VUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZ
    WVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZK
    XWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKR
    YXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRY
    ZZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYP
    _ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE

    Think of the misspelled words:

    IQLUSIONS and UNDERGRUUND The bad letters are Q and U.

    Take a look at the encrypted text:

    Code:
    EMUFPHZLRFAXYUSDJKZLDKRNSHGNFIVJ
    YQTQUXQBQVYUVLLTREVJYQTMKYRDMFD
    VFPJUDEEHZWETZYVGWHKKQETGFQJNCE
    GGWHKK?DQMCPFQZDQMMIAGPFXHQRLG
    TIMVMZJANQLVKQEDAGDVFRPJUNGEUNA
    QZGZLECGYUXUEENJTBJLBQCRTBJDFHRR
    YIZETKZEMVDUFKSJHKFWHKUWQLSZFTI
    HHDDDUVH?DWKBFUFPWNTDFIYCUQZERE
    EVLDKFEZMOQQJLTTUGSYQPFEUNLAVIDX
    FLGGTEZ?FKZBSFDQVGOGIPUFXHHDRKF
    FHQNTGPUAECNUVPDJMQCLQUMUNEDFQ
    ELZZVRRGKFFVOEEXBDMVPNFQXEZLGRE
    DNQFMPNZGLFLPMRJQYALMGNUVPDXVKP
    DQUMEBEDMHDAFMJGZNUPLGEWJLLAETG
    ENDYAHROHNLSRHEOCPTEOIBIDYSHNAIA
    CHTNREYULDSLLSLLNOHSNOSMRWXMNE
    TPRNGATIHNRARPESLNNELEBLPIIACAE
    WMTWNDITEENRAHCTENEUDRETNHAEOE
    TFOLSEDTIWENHAEIOYTEYQHEENCTAYCR
    EIFTBRSPAMHHEWENATAMATEGYEERLB
    TEEFOASFIOTUETUAEOTOARMAEERTNRTI
    BSEDDNIAAHTTMSTEWPIEROAGRIEWFEB
    AECTDDHILCEIHSITEGOEAOSDDRYDLORIT
    RKLMLEHAGTDHARDPNEOHMGFMFEUHE
    ECDMRIPFEIMEHNLSSTTRTVDOHW?OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    And at the decrypted text:

    Code:
    BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGANDTHEABSENC
    EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCEOFIQLUSION
    ITWASTOTALLYINVISIBLEHOWSTHATPO
    SSIBLE?THEYUSEDTHEEARTHSMAGNET
    ICFIELDXTHEINFORMATIONWASGATHER
    EDANDTRANSMITTEDUNDERGRUUNDTOANU
    NKNOWNLOCATIONXDOESLANGLEYKNOWA
    BOUTTHIS?THEYSHOULDITSBURIEDOUT
    THERESOMEWHEREXWHOKNOWSTHEEXACTL
    OCATION?ONLYWWTHISWASHISLASTMES
    SAGEXTHIRTYEIGHTDEGREESFIFTYSE
    VENMINUTESSIXPOINTFIVESECONDSNO
    RTHSEVENTYSEVENDEGREESEIGHTMINU
    TESFORTYFOURSECONDSWESTIDBYROWS
    SLOWLYDESPARATLYSLOWLYTHEREMAINS
    OFPASSAGEDEBRISTHATENCUMBEREDT
    HELOWERPARTOFTHEDOORWAYWASREMOV
    EDWITHTREMBLINGHANDSIMADEATINY
    BREACHINTHEUPPERLEFTHANDCORNERAN
    DTHENWIDENINGTHEHOLEALITTLEIIN
    SERTEDTHECANDLEANDPEEREDINTHEHOT
    AIRESCAPINGFROMTHECHAMBERCAUSED
    THEFLAMETOFLICKERBUTPRESENTLYDETA
    ILSOFTHEROOMWITHINEMERGEDFROM
    THEMISTXCANYOUSEEANYTHINGQ?OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    Notice:

    EMUFPHZLRFAXYUSDJKZLDKRNSHGNFIVJ
    YQTQUXQBQVYUVLLTREVJYQTMKYRDMFD
    VFPJUDEEHZWETZYVGWHKKQETGFQJNCE
    GGWHKK?DQMCPFQZDQMMIAGPFXHQRLG
    TIMVMZJANQLVKQEDAGDVFRPJUNGEUNA
    QZGZLECGYUXUEENJTBJLBQCRTBJDFHRR
    YIZETKZEMVDUFKSJHKFWHKUWQLSZFTI
    HHDDDUVH?DWKBFUFPWNTDFIYCUQZERE
    EVLDKFEZMOQQJLTTUGSYQPFEUNLAVIDX
    FLGGTEZ?FKZBSFDQVGOGIPUFXHHDRKF
    FHQNTGPUAECNUVPDJMQCLQUMUNEDFQ
    ELZZVRRGKFFVOEEXBDMVPNFQXEZLGRE
    DNQFMPNZGLFLPMRJQYALMGNUVPDXVKP
    DQUMEBEDMHDAFMJGZNUPLGEWJLLAETG
    ENDYAHROHNLSRHEOCPTEOIBIDYSHNAIA
    CHTNREYULDSLLSLLNOHSNOSMRWXMNE
    TPRNGATIHNRARPESLNNELEBLPIIACAE
    WMTWNDITEENRAHCTENEUDRETNHAEOE
    TFOLSEDTIWENHAEIOYTEYQHEENCTAYCR
    EIFTBRSPAMHHEWENATAMATEGYEERLB
    TEEFOASFIOTUETUAEOTOARMAEERTNRTI
    BSEDDNIAAHTTMSTEWPIEROAGRIEWFEB
    AECTDDHILCEIHSITEGOEAOSDDRYDLORIT
    RKLMLEHAGTDHARDPNEOHMGFMFEUHE
    ECDMRIPFEIMEHNLSSTTRTVDOHW?OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

    K and R are the bad letters before decryption.



    KR!

    What does it all mean!!!11


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    Checking on something - we think that the K and R misspelling coincide with letters K and R on the vig side if you overlay them. This would be cool as he has mentioned its not somuch the letters as the placement or where they are.

    Any help as to proving this? the typeface having diff character widths makes it hard.


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    The lines throughout vary from 29 to 33 letters, most are 31 though. The last 4 however, are all 31 letters.
    Whatever I feel like I wanna do. Gosh!

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    And going the other direction

    ____________________________OBKR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    WHRECVBBLSMCEYVIHTEOIZROMR

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    very nice!

    maybe:

    ____________________________OBKR
    OSSGNRPQQVRLFWBBFILOSBLUHGOXOU
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    RACKEUAUHUKGIDCJTXZKDGWKPFZMTTV

    flipped 2nd and 4th lines

    or:


    ____________________________OBKR
    TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
    OSSGNRPQQVRLFWBBFILOSBLUHGOXOU
    RACKEUAUHUKGIDCJTXZKDGWKPFZMTTV

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    Default Same thing I did

    I have been looking at this text on and off for a few years and everytime I come up with the same thing.


    Take initial plain text and arrange rows to look like this.
    Fig1
    OB
    KR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKS
    SOT
    WTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBN
    YP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    Notice Kryptos forming?
    Fig2
    OB
    KR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKS
    SOT
    WTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBN
    YP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

    Reverse the lettering in the tos column
    Fig3
    OB
    KR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKS
    TOS
    NBFNIWAIDULKJTAWZZKESSQJSQTW
    YP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    Swap the yp and tos column

    Fig4
    OB
    KR
    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKS
    YP
    VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
    TOS
    NBFNIWAIDULKJTAWZZKESSQJSQTW

    My Translation
    Fig5
    OBKRUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSYPVTTMZFPKWGDKZXT JCDIGKUHUAUEKCARTOSNBFNIWAIDULKJTAWZZKESSQJSQTW

    My Translation without the kryptos
    Fig6
    OBUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSVTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDI GKUHUAUEKCARNBFNIWAIDULKJTAWZZKESSQJSQTW

    Translation of the top OB -to- Letter O = zero(Masking technique) and B to be 1 (This top line is a clue to get starting Hopefully) Remove these
    Fig7

    UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSVTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGK UHUAUEKCARNBFNIWAIDULKJTAWZZKESSQJSQTW

    This is what I get every time I stare at this code. I also just joined this group just for kryptos, so if this is considered a bump or if anyone wants to talk kryptos just message me or im me on aim

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