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    I fixed the spoiler tags, but may have messed up the alignment or formatting - please let me know if I did.

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    The first two lines should be like this, and thanks for the help.




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    I fixed it. Please let me know if there is anything else not right.
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    Marvyn, can you post your solution method? If others can verify your method, this would be very exciting news.

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    Default How to solve K4

    Hi Rusty,

    Here is a quick way to solve K4[
    1. Move all the letters in a pyramid shape. O will be at the top, and UEKCAR will be at the bottom.
    2. Rotate all the letters so the top row reads UZVDKWRFLUXRBO.
    3. To make this more difficult the letters may be either plain text, or substituted.
    4. I used:
    AB CDE FGH IJK LMN OPQ RST UVW XYZ
    WD BAT ONG XFI HUK ZCY VRL QEJ SPM
    5. Move out the U and E(U= M E=E) the first letters of lines one and two.
    6. Move up the K and C straight up from the beginning of line three and four.
    7. That makes KZVDKNAS at the beginning of line one.
    8. Decode that to NORBNAS(SANBORN backwards and jumbled.
    9. CXTIZEN will be at the beginning of line two. That makes CITIZEN decoded.
    10. I think Mr. Sanborn made these words easiest to find, so we would have a small chance to solve this.
    11. Decode rest of message, my solution is posted above.

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    YA R
    D H is the clue hidden in plain sight.

    1. The AHR form a pyramid shape, and K3 talks about King Tuts tomb.
    2. The letters for words may be jumbled.
    3. The letters may not be on the same line.
    4. There may be extra letters.
    5. The puzzle will be "HARD".

    Good luck, Marvyn spoiler][/spoiler]

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    I'm stuck on your step #1. How do you make the pyramid? There does not seem to be enough letters in K4.

    Code:
             O
            BKR
           UOXOG
          HULBSOL
         IFBBWFLRV
        QQPRNGKSSOT
       WTQSJQSSEKZZW
      ATJKLUDIAWINFBN
     YPVTTMZFPKWGDKZXT
    JCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

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    Default Help in solving K4

    Hi again Rusty,

    You just made your pyramid to wide. Line one will have one letter, line two will have two letters, etc.

    Marvyn

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    I can see his pyramid and the flip, still looking at the rearrangement and letter assignment. I find these triangular patterns fascinating, since rusty and moscow both did puzzles with them.

    Code:
    O
    BK
    RUO
    XOGH
    ULBSO
    LIFBBW
    FLRVQQP
    RNGKSSOT
    WTQSJQSSE
    KZZWATJKLU
    DIAWINFBNYP
    VTTMZFPKWGDK
    ZXTJCDIGKUHUA
    UEKCAR

    Code:
    UZVDKWRFLUXRBO
    EXTIZTNLILOUK
    KTTAZQGRFBGO
    CJMWWSKVBSH
    ACZIAJSQBO
    RDFNTQSQW
    _IPFJSOP
    _GKBKST
    _KWNLE
    _UGYU
    _HDP
    _UK
    _A

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    ok, now how did you get SANBORN on the top line?

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    3. To make this more difficult the letters may be either plain text, or substituted.
    4. I used:
    AB CDE FGH IJK LMN OPQ RST UVW XYZ
    WD BAT ONG XFI HUK ZCY VRL QEJ SPM
    5. Move out the U and E(U= M E=E) the first letters of lines one and two.
    6. Move up the K and C straight up from the beginning of line three and four.
    7. That makes KZVDKNAS at the beginning of line one.
    8. Decode that to NORBNAS(SANBORN backwards and jumbled.
    9. CXTIZEN will be at the beginning of line two. That makes CITIZEN decoded.
    UZVDKWRFLUXRBO
    EXTIZTNLILOUK
    KTTAZQGRFBGO
    CJMWWSKVBSH

    5. Move out the U and E(U= M E=E) the first letters of lines one and two.
    -ZVDKWRFLUXRBO
    -XTIZTNLILOUK
    KTTAZQGRFBGO
    CJMWWSKVBSH

    6. Move up the K and C straight up from the beginning of line three and four.
    KZVDKWRFLUXRBO
    CXTIZTNLILOUK

    7. That makes KZVDKNAS at the beginning of line one.
    8. Decode that to NORBNAS(SANBORN backwards and jumbled.
    In fact 7 should have said KZVDKWRF that with the subtitution proposed gives NORBNAS, the rest of the line says JTRISCF

    9. CXTIZEN will be at the beginning of line two. That makes CITIZEN decoded.
    The second line says CXTIZTN that would be CITIZEN if the subtitution cipher is applied to only two of the letters.

    In my opinion it is too forced, but what do I know?

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