1. ## 5000 Twollar challenge!

I will give 5000 twollars to the first person who posts some previously undiscovered piece of Kryptos knowledge. This does not have to be the whole K4 enchilada. It could be the smallest as yet undiscovered clue. For example, the meaning of raised letters in the DYAHR... row. Or, how about a new way to solve K3. Or, perhaps the precise location of where the compass rose points. Maybe something as small as the simple clue hidden in plain sight that Sanborn promises is there, but no one has yet found.

Any new Kryptos discovery could get you dem 5000 big ones.

-Rusty

2. "There was a second gunman in the grass knoll."

Oh wait....

3. As usual, I am going to attack this from the
non-scientific angle...

In doing some research, I have come to know that
the artist wrote the phrases and developed the layered
puzzle and then had a reitered cryptographer code it.

With that, and with the two other pieces:

- the retired cryptographer was quoted as saying about
the solution "I have zero memeory of it. It was obscure and
philosophical."

-the CIA paid for this sculpture out of Gov't Budget dollars so
it had to meet 'Gov't' requirements during the new building
construction. With these requiremnts, the artist (not really knowing
how long it would be for a solve to occur) would want to
make sure the puzzle solution was respectful (as much as the
puzzle itself) to the build that was housing and funding it.

Therefore.... I propose the theory that WW
mentioned refers to William Donavan, the first overall chief of
the United States Intelligence Community.

He headed up the 'COI' or the Coordinator of Intellignece
during World War II. This agency was later chnaged to the
CIA. I think this is interesting with the K2 solve because
Coordinator now takes on two means.
Why 'WW''? His long and common knickname is 'Wild Bill'
So the artist, with his license, used the initals for
Wild William. (WW)

If this has been proposed in another thread, I have no knowledge
of it. But 'invisble, underground' are the 'foundations' of the
CIA.

4. James Sanborn has acknowledged that the 'WW' in K2 refers to William Webster, who was CIA director at the time Kryptos was dedicated.

Very nice try! This is the sort of thing that would win the 5000 twollars, if it were true.

-Rusty

5. Originally Posted by rdshackleford
James Sanborn has acknowledged that the 'WW' in K2 refers to William Webster, who was CIA director at the time Kryptos was dedicated.

Very nice try! This is the sort of thing that would win the 5000 twollars, if it were true.

-Rusty
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

He also said that William Webster didn't have the entire solve.

6. well i did find this:....interesting about the "omitted" letter...

For more than a decade, amateur and professional cryptographers have been trying to decipher an encrypted sculpture that sits on the grounds of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. Three-fourths of the sculpture has already been solved.
...
Kryptos, which means "hidden" in Greek, sits outside a cafeteria on the CIA grounds and consists of a large block of petrified wood standing upright, with a copper plate scrolling out of the wood like a sheet of paper in the shape of an S. The sculpture contains approximately 1,800 letters carved out of the copper plate in four sections, some of which form an encryption table used for deciphering the rest of the sculpture.
So far, no problem.
But now Jim Sanborn, the artist who created the Kryptos sculpture, says he made a mistake... It all comes down to a letter that Sanborn left out of the sculpture. He only recently realized the omission was leading sleuths down a misguided path.
Ouch! That's got to hurt, especially if you're one of these guys:
In 1999, California computer scientist Jim Gillogly solved three of the four sections. A CIA analyst named David Stein reached the same solution for those sections a year earlier, but his work remained unknown to anyone outside the CIA until Gillogly came forward with his solution.
The first section of the sculpture was decrypted to a poetic phrase created by Sanborn. The second refers to something possibly buried on the CIA grounds: Does Langley know about this? They should: It's buried out there somewhere. The third section is text from archaeologist Howard Carter's diary describing the opening of a door in King Tut's tomb Nov. 26, 1922.

The fourth part has remained stubbornly unsolved. The sculpture received a lot of renewed interest last year after Wired News published a story discussing author Dan Brown's references to it in the book jacket for The Da Vinci Code. Since then, thousands of new sleuths have been obsessing over the code. Chris Hanson, co-moderator of the Yahoo group and a Colorado programmer who runs a 3-D landscape software company called 3D Nature, created a model of the CIA's building complex, complete with landscaped grounds, to study the sculpture's surroundings for clues. Another member of the group even reportedly quit his job to devote time to cracking the code.

7. I replied over in K2 - Layer Two.

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## Solution for Kryptos K4

I believe I have a partial solution (seventeen words) for K4. What would be the best way to disclose this? I can give clues so that most can solve it, or just post the solution I have.

btw: This is my first post so bear with me. Marvyn Wulff (Dawn is my wife)

9. Yay! Why don't you post some clues, then put the solution in a spoiler - that way you will get full credit for the solve.

If you don't know how to use a spoiler, just post and I will add the spoiler tags for you (I'll be on for a while longer tonight).

Sue

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## Clues to solve K4

Clue one. A virtually invisible, shadow force is a bat. It is a key word in the ciphertext. Here is my solution: