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## Unbalanced Divide

Does anyone have any idea what this phrase alludes to: "In the unbalanced divide of their number is their shape defined". It seems, to me, that since the key will be found in four scenes the unbalanced divide of four is either 3 or 1 meaning that the "shape" of the key will be shown in either 3 or 1 of the four scenes.

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## Re: Unbalanced Divide

Does anyone have any idea what this phrase alludes to:  "In the unbalanced divide of their number is their shape defined".  It seems, to me, that since the key will be found in four scenes the unbalanced divide of four is either 3 or 1 meaning that the "shape" of the key will be shown in either 3 or 1 of the four scenes.

Heh...I'd say that's the \$64,000 question.

3. Is that a question or a statement? : ) Seriously.

Part of the puzzle is our wrestling with it. Give yourself fully to it.

4. Here is something more specific - not saying this is it, just several angles:

What is "their number"? - if it is 4, then perhaps there are 4 things that are unequally divided.

Next, the scenes in the book have a definite grouping - three scenes are found on p. 13, 27, and 41, each separated by 14 pages (a fortnight). This is after Flamel - "and they will reveal the meaning of A MORTALS LIFE = A FLAMEL TRIOS.

Next, there are 4 remaining scenes, found in the chapter you quoted from. If my memory is correct, each of these 4 scenes contains 9 symbols. Okay? Just to get the ball rolling.

5. Ok, I'll bite. I've been working too many hours a week this year, and have only had time to work on this puzzle for short periods of time, but they are precious to me.

First thing everyone needs to understand is what a scene is. A scene is a series of actions that tell a short story of sorts, that is part of a larger story. Scenes are scenes because they contain a cast of characters. Please, no arguing semantics, b/c I won't bite on that.

I don't think anyone is really paying attention to how the characters in the stories/scenes are related to the stories/scenes of the Images (the 7 illustrations). The ones that are, are the ones who aren't talking much.

If you can pay attention to who is mentioned, and how they are mentioned in this book, then you will see what I am talking about. This book may indeed hold a secret to other 'puzzles' that have secrets, i.e. the Rennes enigma, what the Templars really found, etc. BUT we are NOT required to use them nor know of them to solve this book.

That is what the author is telling everyone of us in the last paragraph on page xii. All that we need to know is in this book. Maybe the key in this book unlocks those other mysteries, but like I kept stating above, no knowledge of them is required.

Let it begin, again.

6. Good point SearchingTudor. Don't forget that scene can also mean: A real or fictitious episode, especially when described (dictionary.com) I think that you are right, if we look at each character and how they fit into each "scene", maybe we can see the forest for the trees. Vitta

7. "In four scenes is the key hidden, in the unbalanced divide of their number is it's shape defined."
"Four scenes" = first four pictures which are grouped together separately from the others and hence are a fundamental set. So the key is therefore hidden in some way in the first four pictures. An unbalanced divide of a even number (4) is an odd number and hence "it's"(key) shape is defined by a odd number. A "shape" implies a polygon (not a point or a line which could not be odd numbered anyways) and hence has three or more sides so therefore the key is an odd numbered polygon. If 4 is regarded as a number that must be divided into by a smaller number (subjective), then the key could only have three sides and would therefore be a triangle.

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I agree that 'scenes' means scenes as Apprentice said - four pictures in the book. But in general, I'd caution against taking things too literally. As an example...

Very early on, in the first days of the puzzle and with the planet symbols, etc... I saw a zodiac connection. I took 'scenes' to mean 'seasons' - i.e., four seasons = one year.

A traditional western zodiac is divided into equal chunks of time per sign, BUT the 'true' solar zodiac (i.e., the time the sun actually spends in each sign) divides the year unevenly - the sun spends a different amount of time in each constellation. The 'true' zodiac periods are well known, published and easy to find. Interestingly, the only sign in the solar zodiac that doesn't appear in the western zodiac is the 'serpent bearer', adding further intrigue to this possibility.

My theory was: read the text, taking each |length of time in the sign| letters (or words) and read a message from the text.

I tried many variations of this theme and, well, it didn't work. But the point is, keep your options open and don't hyperfocus on a pet theory. That doomed a lot of zip code fans in ATT!

9. Search Tudor

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The bite, si serow, then the bark.

SPEAKing of mountain goats ………….

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LISTEN TO THESE THREE SPEAK

(silent) ENLIST TOTH. SEE THREE PEAKS

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In PE and PS (Plain Sight)

Chapter 1 contains 1 peak
Chapter 2 contains 2 peaks
Chapter 3 contains 3 peaks

There is beautiful (and logical) progression in this puzzle, at many levels. “Scene” can mean one thing, or many things, including “seen”, “censes”, ‘senes,

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J – A task we have is to see clearly, without prejudice. It is not easy to do for many reasons, including genetics and a lifetime of experiences. One of our jobs is to learn to operate in another mode, to see without bias, and not be separated from others due to viewpoints. As we conquer these limitations of the physical world, more will be added.

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There, did you see it, at the end of the third chapter? Three peaks. In TheSong (Hog Nest, Pig Pen), each peak is an inverted V with a dot. The Z’s are shown.

We are sleeping and it is time to wake up.

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ST - I agree with your statements. The things revealed in this puzzle are Hard One, and each person may prove through their struggle that they are serious about finding it.

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A ST

10. and once we find it, atreasuretrover, we have to know what to do with it...there in lies the next layer to the elzzud.