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    Quote Originally Posted by hayward View Post
    .... I suppose that what I have been seeking is some sort of direct acknowledgment from the outside, but don't know where I'd find it.
    I came across this page yesterday and a passage from it reminded me of what you said above..

    Theosophy : Hidden Life in Freemasonry by Mahatma C. W. Leadbeater : :

    792: It is significant that up to this point the aspirant, having complied with certain requirements, may apply for advancement, may demand recognition of his progress. But now that he is coming in sight of higher Degrees he may no longer make demand - he must wait for invitation from those who have already attained. It is not for him, but for them, to decide when he is ready to make a further effort. At the levels which he must now approach, the brotherhood is so close, so perfect, that there must be no risk that its fullness may be marred by the introduction of a discordant element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    perhaps the Great Work requires knights on both sides of the oath fence

    As envious as I am of those on the other side of that fence.. I now see that perhaps they are envious of us as well.. whereas they have access to sources that we do not.. they must keep secrets.. now us not having access to things that they do.. at least, if we are persistent in our quest and manage to glimpse the Grail.. at least we have the ability to say whatever we want whenever we want!
    This is true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    I came across this page yesterday and a passage from it reminded me of what you said above..

    Theosophy : Hidden Life in Freemasonry by Mahatma C. W. Leadbeater : :

    792: It is significant that up to this point the aspirant, having complied with certain requirements, may apply for advancement, may demand recognition of his progress. But now that he is coming in sight of higher Degrees he may no longer make demand - he must wait for invitation from those who have already attained. It is not for him, but for them, to decide when he is ready to make a further effort. At the levels which he must now approach, the brotherhood is so close, so perfect, that there must be no risk that its fullness may be marred by the introduction of a discordant element.
    Thanks HT, it is helpful to be reminded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    perhaps the Great Work requires knights on both sides of the oath fence

    As envious as I am of those on the other side of that fence.. I now see that perhaps they are envious of us as well.. whereas they have access to sources that we do not.. they must keep secrets.. now us not having access to things that they do.. at least, if we are persistent in our quest and manage to glimpse the Grail.. at least we have the ability to say whatever we want whenever we want!
    Your statement, HT, prompts me to again consider the overall trajectory of the book. This is all speculation (what isn't!?) but, interesting to consider.

    I've been thinking about D's postings about how the Royal Arch ritual was changed and his reaction to this. It seems as though there is a possibility that through the evolution of the rituals, there is danger that the 'secret' may be lost. Like sweeping away the bread crumbs in the middle of the trail. So, it brings me to also consider that something like the LRB could serve the purpose of preserving this secret, without giving it up right away.

    This wouldn't be the only case or example of this occurring either. It could be that many of the appearances of the 'secret' through books, literature, art, etc. throughout history were produced for the very same reason, as previously the secrets protected by 'the priesthood' may have been strictly passed verbally.

    Which brings us to the present. What is meant for those who encounter it through such means as this, without affiliation to one of the 'schools'? To produce such a work would seem to demonstrate a rested faith (or hope) in the possibility that someone can discover the 'truth' without such affiliation. Which would seem to bode well for us .

    I'd like to propose here (perhaps even on another forum) to form a team effort to uncover some of these issues on a deeper level. Even though we might argue this is what we've been doing all along anyhow, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayward View Post
    Your statement, HT, prompts me to again consider the overall trajectory of the book. This is all speculation (what isn't!?) but, interesting to consider.

    I've been thinking about D's postings about how the Royal Arch ritual was changed and his reaction to this. It seems as though there is a possibility that through the evolution of the rituals, there is danger that the 'secret' may be lost. Like sweeping away the bread crumbs in the middle of the trail. So, it brings me to also consider that something like the LRB could serve the purpose of preserving this secret, without giving it up right away.

    This wouldn't be the only case or example of this occurring either. It could be that many of the appearances of the 'secret' through books, literature, art, etc. throughout history were produced for the very same reason, as previously the secrets protected by 'the priesthood' may have been strictly passed verbally.

    Which brings us to the present. What is meant for those who encounter it through such means as this, without affiliation to one of the 'schools'? To produce such a work would seem to demonstrate a rested faith (or hope) in the possibility that someone can discover the 'truth' without such affiliation. Which would seem to bode well for us .

    I'd like to propose here (perhaps even on another forum) to form a team effort to uncover some of these issues on a deeper level. Even though we might argue this is what we've been doing all along anyhow, lol.
    totally agree with you hayward.. i think we have been doing it all along..
    i can share that as we have all been digging into Maranatha.. and consequently learning about Freemasonry.. my intuition of late has been telling me that we already are "in".. I have a sneaking feeling that "Life" itself is the Master Mason.. and you and Astree are certainly my Brothers! I would be proud to make our Brotherhood official
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    totally agree with you hayward.. i think we have been doing it all along..
    i can share that as we have all been digging into Maranatha.. and consequently learning about Freemasonry.. my intuition of late has been telling me that we already are "in".. I have a sneaking feeling that "Life" itself is the Master Mason.. and you and Astree are certainly my Brothers! I would be proud to make our Brotherhood official
    Lead the way Brother
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    in my view, my signature says exactly the conclusion that Duncan was and is trying to lead us to.. Life.. our shared reality.. is the Temple.. the platonic solids are the building blocks.. and the proof of Intelligent Design..
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    [QUOTE=hayward;564340]Your statement, HT, prompts me to again consider the overall trajectory of the book. This is all speculation (what isn't!?) but, interesting to consider.

    I've been thinking about D's postings about how the Royal Arch ritual was changed and his reaction to this. It seems as though there is a possibility that through the evolution of the rituals, there is danger that the 'secret' may be lost. Like sweeping away the bread crumbs in the middle of the trail. So, it brings me to also consider that something like the LRB could serve the purpose of preserving this secret, without giving it up right away.

    This wouldn't be the only case or example of this occurring either. It could be that many of the appearances of the 'secret' through books, literature, art, etc. throughout history were produced for the very same reason, as previously the secrets protected by 'the priesthood' may have been strictly passed verbally.

    Which brings us to the present. What is meant for those who encounter it through such means as this, without affiliation to one of the 'schools'? To produce such a work would seem to demonstrate a rested faith (or hope) in the possibility that someone can discover the 'truth' without such affiliation. Which would seem to bode well for us .

    I'd like to propose here (perhaps even on another forum) to form a team effort to uncover some of these issues on a deeper level. Even though we might argue this is what we've been doing all along anyhow, lol.[/QUOTe}

    Interesting idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    totally agree with you hayward.. i think we have been doing it all along..
    i can share that as we have all been digging into Maranatha.. and consequently learning about Freemasonry.. my intuition of late has been telling me that we already are "in".. I have a sneaking feeling that "Life" itself is the Master Mason.. and you and Astree are certainly my Brothers! I would be proud to make our Brotherhood official
    HT- you are my brothers as well, I feel the same. Let it be so!!

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