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    I picked up the book last week. Neat, right up my alley, wish I'd gotten it at release, since I did a LOT of study on this back in the late 90's.

    First, yes, I've tried to sift through all the threads so far.

    I imagine that most have drawn the 30-60-90 triangles, the square, the circle, and the pentacle. What is the current thinking on making this a 3-D shape? Platonic solids have not shed light to me.

    Isn't it interesting that pigpen is twice symmetrical? Can be read up, down forwards, backwards, especially in these nice neat grids he's given us.

    Has everyone found the groupings of letters in the grids that spell (anagram) to pertinent figures in the overarching story? Nikolas Flamel, Leonardo Da Vinci, Francis Bacon, Shakespeare, Freemasons?

    Is there universal agreement as to which figures in panel 2 and panel 3 are the ones described in the text? Is there more? Are there hidden pictures?

    The crescent moon on the cup in P3, which is not the same as the other planetary or Tree of Life symbols (not in a circle) , is that just a feminine symbol indicating more of the same theory "the grail is Magdalene"?

    Why is Mosis killing a child?

    Are those demons, or the mythical beasts of whose dreams we see?

    Congrats to O11 and all the other people who think they've got it, or are on the right path.

    Fascinating.

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    I'm sitting here laughing. You're about to get some people talking, I think. What was needed around here was intelligent fresh perspective and I believe that some of what you mentioned hasn't even been discussed.

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    Is there universal agreement as to which figures in panel 2 and panel 3 are the ones described in the text?
     

    I'm not even sure that the images represent specific characters in the text.

    Why is Mosis killing a child?
    Interesting. I've never associated any of the drawn figures with Moses. Which figure makes you think of him, and why?

    (P.S. - Welcome to the quest.)

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    Agreed

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    Yes WELCOME FROM ME TOO...


    Now can you solve this for us ...hurry up.. ..thanks !

    ONLY JOKING HERE..take your time...

    but hurry!!..!!
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    A lot of my early work was based around figuring out who was who in the images; my premise was that the text was also a description on how to align these pages - no luck so far!

    Characters I'm sure of;

    1. Death with his scythe
    2. Mercury (Michael, Thoth)
    3. The 'king of terrors'

    The rest are trickier

    I went largely by positions.

    Joseph LEANS (but does not necessarily 'kneel')

    Mosis 'ROSE' and 'looked down' with the aid of (Aaron)

    Aaron KNEELS

    (There is no physical position ascribed to the 'high priest')

    My initial assumption was that these three were all represented in the 3rd image; that Joseph is the small figure in the upper right quadrant 'leaning'; that Mosis is the one with an apron (?? link to freemasonry) and that Aaron kneels. However, there are two other kneeling figures who may be candidates for Aaron in picture 4. If we assume that Aaron has a 'budded' staff this leaves us with 2 candidates. The translation speaks of his staff also being 'laid to rest in the arc' - I felt this to be a key to alignment; it also refers to 'the pointing fingers being as 'true as the half broken nenhustan.' It doesn't say who's fingers, but the kneeling image in picture 4 has pointing fingers, as do Death and Mercury. Several figures including the King have pointing 'hands' in image 4.

    The extra clues to Joseph are that his gaze is through the 'all seeing eye'; presumably his head or gaze aligns through the top of one of the mountains in other images when the construction is made. He was also raised by the beasts and could read the dreams from Olympus; does he align in some way with the 'tender' rose in image 2?

    This all might be simpler if I knew what the 'secret mark of Joseph's wisdom' was, because that might help to triangulate Moses and Aaron in relation to Joseph. No staves 'consume their own tips', but 3 have 'shepherds crooks' to the end.

    I had a long think about it; two of the staffs resemble the 'was-staff', none directly resembles a nenhustan. The nenhustan was the staff of Moses, so it stands to reason that he holds at least 'half' of it; possibly a serpent from the later images overlies it. When their tips of the 'was staffs' are aligned they form a right angle.

    'David' rests his staff beside Solomon's; no two individuals are side by side with the exception of 'Apron' and 'Kneels-with-budded-Was-staff' in image three. Of course, this changes if you fold page 4, but I haven't pursued this option very far (yet). He also points to the 'sun' and is the 'measure' of all things. And yet, Duncan said we did not need a ruler! Perhaps if we use a compass and form circles the diameter or radius of which are the length of the staff? This leads back to my favourite but probably wrong theory of Metatron's Cube/Flower of Life. The kneeling figure in image 3 does not point with his hands but could be said to point with his staff; this could then be David. His staff 'rests' on the ground, but he looks down, not up as you might expect of an astrologer.

    There is no physical position ascribed to Solomon, although he is associated with the Jewel from the Crown of Rex Mundi.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Cheers, Atlantis
    Here about the coast I wandered
    Nourishing a youth sublime
    With the fairytales of science
    And the long result of time...

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    I picked up the book last week. Neat, right up my alley, wish I'd gotten it at release, since I did a LOT of study on this back in the late 90's.
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