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    Chas,

    Just wondering if this is anywhere near where you are heading with your current series of posts.
    Was thinking about a recent post,cant remember right now who upped it,as I remember it was a segment of an interview taken from the movie 'Bloodline' between the films director,Bruce Burgess and Nicholas Heyworth (A self-proclaimed P.O.S. spokesperson)-The conversation veered towards discussion of what Heyworth stated were indications of an impending deluge.

    Heres an extract taken from something I've just been thumbing through.


    "There is a period," wrote Censorinus, "called 'the supreme
    year' by Aristotle, at the end of which the sun, moon, and all the planets return to their original
    position. This 'supreme year' has a great winter, called by the Greeks kata-klysmos, which means
    deluge, and a great summer, called by the Greeks ekpyrosis, or combustion of the world. The
    world, actually, seems to be inundated and burned alternately in each of these epochs."
    Anaximenes and Anaximander in the sixth pre-Christian century, and Diogenes of Apollonia in
    the fifth century, assumed the destruction of the world with subsequent recreation. Heraclitus (-
    540 to -475) taught that the world is destroyed in conflagration after every period of 10,800
    years. Aristarchus of Samos in the third century before the present era taught that in a period of
    2,484 years the earth undergoes two destructions—of combustion and deluge.
    The Stoics generally believed in periodic conflagrations by which the
    world was consumed, to be shaped anew. "This is due to the forces of ever-active fire which
    exists in things and in the course of long cycles of time resolves everything into itself and out of
    it is constructed a reborn world" —so Philo presented the notion of the Stoics that our world is
    refashioned in periodic conflagrations.2 In one such catastrophe the world will meet its ultimate
    destruction; colliding with another world, it will fall apart into atoms out of which, in a long
    process, a new earth will be created somewhere in the universe. "Democritus and Epicurus,"
    explained Philo, "postulate many worlds, the origin of which they ascribe to the mutual impacts
    and interlacing of atoms, and their destruction to the counterblows and collisions by the bodies
    so formed." As this earth goes to its ultimate destruction, it passes through recurring cosmic
    catastrophes and is re-formed with all that lives on it...''

    Emmanuel Velikovsky

    Worlds In Collision

    Tom

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    Laurency's take on this:


    "According to the plan, this physical manifestation takes place during the entire globe period of 620 million years and is divided into seven major phases. These phases are called root-races, and during each one of them is gradually evolved a new physical human type having also new psychological qualities. Each root-race develops on its own continent or group of continents and has there to build its own civilization, which is eventually annihilated by natural disasters. For the root-race epochs are divided by periods of great revolutions in all natural kingdoms. It is the transformations in the mineral kingdom – volcanism, seismic disturbances, etc. – that cause such destruction in the world of man."


    http://laurency.com/Fke/Fke12.pdf

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    "A characteristic feature of the Senmut ceiling is the astronomically objectionable orientation of
    the southern panel." The center of this panel is occupied by the Orion-Sirius group, in which
    Orion appears west of Sirius instead of east. "The orientation of the southern panel is such that
    the person in the tomb looking at it has to lift his head and face north, not south."
    "With the reversed orientation of the south panel, Orion, the most conspicuous constellation of the
    southern sky, appeared to be moving eastward, i.e., in the wrong direction."

    Abraham Velikovsky

    Worlds In Collision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Hi Chasn,

    ....

    Just a thought.
    If we were "populated" by some God like visitor then there would be some evidence of some sort. A relic even. One should expect our DNA to show something different if we were "interfered" with when proto apes, or be different if we were dropped here. Alas, the fossil record does not seem to support the exotic possibility of a sky daddy. Enchanting theory though.

    ....
    Man has been on this planet how long? DNA was discovered when? Man only knows what man knows at a point in time. Todays experts and geniuses are tomorrow's fools.
    I'm open in my thoughts and my first reaction when I hear '...the experts say...' is to just smile and think that the opposite (and all shades of grey in between) is probably true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    From Laurency:



    "The group of divine beings who had been appointed to form our first government arrived on Terra about 22 million years ago. They were accompanied by a larger group of Venusian second selves, so called masters, and their disciples belonging to the Venusian mankind. To give particular assistance a very large group of devas of second self capacity, so-called solar angels or Augoeides, had been gathered together from the entire solar system to planet Terra.

    Countless myths and legends still preserve, even though in distorted form, the memory of the unparalleled event when the sons of fire, the lords of the flame, descended on the earth and took their abode among men. Their contact with and influence on all our natural kingdoms is the greatest and most important singular event on our planet. Without the assistance they have given us in the greatest self-sacrifice, the world and its inhabitants would be far worse today than they are. Man as we know him today is in all essentials a creation by the lords of the flame, the masters from Venus, and the Augoeides. How this creation was done will now be briefly described."


    http://laurency.com/Fke/Fke12.pdf
    Frightening.

    Good grief, I bet they came because of the bad weather on Venus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Hi Chasn,

    ....

    Just a thought.
    If we were "populated" by some God like visitor then there would be some evidence of some sort. A relic even. One should expect our DNA to show something different if we were "interfered" with when proto apes, or be different if we were dropped here. Alas, the fossil record does not seem to support the exotic possibility of a sky daddy. Enchanting theory though.

    ....
    Man has been on this planet how long? DNA was discovered when? Man only knows what man knows at a point in time. Todays experts and geniuses are tomorrow's fools.
    I'm open in my thoughts and my first reaction when I hear '...the experts say...' is to just smile and think that the opposite (and all shades of grey in between) is probably true.
    Expert is not the same as expect. I do agree with your comments though.

    Given the lack of generous archeological funding, it would be reasonable to assume that most scientists would jump at an attention grabbing headline like "DNA anomalies point toward Human genetic manipulation in pre history " to ensure further digs. Yet there is silence and I take it that we have no evidence................. for the moment.

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    Hi Chasn,

    The best articles and most believable case is your original link : On History: The Egyptian Star Map and Moses

    I start to get worried when too many conspiracy
    theories get roped into the picture. Spaeth has many supporters and few critics which is encouraging, so I will go with his ideas for the moment.

    I think that Nibiru and Worlds in collision has been debunked. To my knowledge no eminent physicist supports it so it remains in the realm of myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Frightening.

    Good grief, I bet they came because of the bad weather on Venus.

    Take a Bex Azoth - you'll get over it.

    Wouldn't you like to take a trip to Venus and visit the rellies?

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    I think that Nibiru and Worlds in collision has been debunked. To my knowledge no eminent physicist supports it so it remains in the realm of myth.

    That well may be. However there is no denying the implications of Velikovskys historical source material,and at the end of the day Von Spaen is leaning on Velikovsky's research quite gratituously,whilst at the same time appearing to debunk it.I would agree he (Velikovsky) has not got the whole of the facts in order,however his take on the Senmut tomb is practically identical to my own understandings of the star-map,ie.the positioning of Orion -Sirius group.
    Von Spaen also appears to give credence to similar observations.
    Have you actually read 'Worlds In Collision',Azoth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom O' Bedlam View Post
    Chas,

    Just wondering if this is anywhere near where you are heading with your current series of posts.
    Was thinking about a recent post,cant remember right now who upped it,as I remember it was a segment of an interview taken from the movie 'Bloodline' between the films director,Bruce Burgess and Nicholas Heyworth (A self-proclaimed P.O.S. spokesperson)-The conversation veered towards discussion of what Heyworth stated were indications of an impending deluge.

    Heres an extract taken from something I've just been thumbing through.


    "There is a period," wrote Censorinus, "called 'the supreme
    year' by Aristotle, at the end of which the sun, moon, and all the planets return to their original
    position. This 'supreme year' has a great winter, called by the Greeks kata-klysmos, which means
    deluge, and a great summer, called by the Greeks ekpyrosis, or combustion of the world. The
    world, actually, seems to be inundated and burned alternately in each of these epochs."
    Anaximenes and Anaximander in the sixth pre-Christian century, and Diogenes of Apollonia in
    the fifth century, assumed the destruction of the world with subsequent recreation. Heraclitus (-
    540 to -475) taught that the world is destroyed in conflagration after every period of 10,800
    years. Aristarchus of Samos in the third century before the present era taught that in a period of
    2,484 years the earth undergoes two destructions—of combustion and deluge.
    The Stoics generally believed in periodic conflagrations by which the
    world was consumed, to be shaped anew. "This is due to the forces of ever-active fire which
    exists in things and in the course of long cycles of time resolves everything into itself and out of
    it is constructed a reborn world" —so Philo presented the notion of the Stoics that our world is
    refashioned in periodic conflagrations.2 In one such catastrophe the world will meet its ultimate
    destruction; colliding with another world, it will fall apart into atoms out of which, in a long
    process, a new earth will be created somewhere in the universe. "Democritus and Epicurus,"
    explained Philo, "postulate many worlds, the origin of which they ascribe to the mutual impacts
    and interlacing of atoms, and their destruction to the counterblows and collisions by the bodies
    so formed." As this earth goes to its ultimate destruction, it passes through recurring cosmic
    catastrophes and is re-formed with all that lives on it...''

    Emmanuel Velikovsky

    Worlds In Collision

    Tom
    Yes I have an few Interviews with this man ( P O S ) spokesman.. an yes I am hitting on this path.. just what you have posted above. This is what I have been studin for a while.. somehow this Sept 15th date is going to fit into it. when I get more info on this I will post it to ya..
    I am kinda in a catch 22 here on which way to go further with this.. something to to with that star map an the position of the planets.. because remember that P O S spokesman said, when ask, who will survive an he said " Maybe no one" so they are aware of whats happenin.. u can actually see things that are going on as far as with the Nature of things.. I see it at least...
    Ill get back with ya

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