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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post

    Look at the effect that their discovery had on them. At least one recanted. What does this suggest to us? What direction are these fingers pointing in?

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    I'm not so sure this is clear cut either - I think Duncan muddied the water to say the least when in answer to a question in one of the interviews he said the revelations in Maranatha would have no impact on the established religions.

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    I've been looking for the reference for my post above in the interviews but I can't find it.

    I may have to do so recanting myself.

    It might be better to ignore what I said above until it can be verified.

    Does anyone else have a recollection of Duncan's comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    I've been looking for the reference for my post above in the interviews but I can't find it.

    I may have to do so recanting myself.

    It might be better to ignore what I said above until it can be verified.

    Does anyone else have a recollection of Duncan's comment?
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    He said:
    <netsirk> which denominations, religions, or sects were recanted after discovery by your team?
    <Sacred_Prize> Catholic and Bahai
    <cthree> bahai?

    <Sacred_Prize> A Persian Faith
    <cthree> oops fr33 was next ;[
    <netsirk> can u give us a little background to that faith?
    <netsirk> a brief summary if u can
    <netsirk> i am unfamiliar with it
    <Sacred_Prize> Its a faith that believes that all the major religions were from the same source and their diversity was the result of man and not god

    <cthree> wow very interesting
    <cthree> ty net!
    <netsirk> ahhh...thx...one more..sorry
    <netsirk> just came to me
    <netsirk> Would other Christians recant their current beliefs as well if they knew the key and the truth?
    <cthree> np
    <Sacred_Prize> Very Possible, not because the faith is wrong, but why they believe
    <netsirk> (in other variations of Christianity)


    I'm like you - I also thought he said some where that it wouldn't affect one particular religion specifically, but had an affect on all faiths - can't see that in the interviews, so maybe it was said on here.

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    Here are several quotes that are related to your discussion:

    “are about to launch a revolutionary book that will rewrite the foundation of all religions …

    Finding the answer was just as important as the quest to find it,

    … although we understood the connotations this revelation would have and the shock waves it would create throughout all world religions.

    Speculation has survived a thousand years…

    goes on general release on Octover 29th”

    Maranatha Puzzle - Home (Press Releases, p. 4)
    (this is the verbatim…. 8 over 2/9 is half 72 = 36)

    I did manage to extract a couple of particulars, though. Firstly, the "secret" doesn't have any special relevance to any of the world religions, so we won't have to worry about various jihads or crusades being launched against us as a result of the code being cracked. Also, although The Solution appears to have been encoded into Masonic ritual

    Thothweb - The Maranatha Path (Robin Hilton)
    The first quoted article is titled "RELIGIOUS RESEARCH TEAM DISCOVERS HOLY GRAIL", which seems relevant to your discussion.

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    We have all found ourselves wading through a mass of fact filled lies, half truths and innumerable tomes of opaque vacuous bilge.

    "Inundated" doesn't even begin to cover it.

    I sift through the many comments and hints made by Priory. Look at the effect that their discovery had on them. At least one recanted. What does this suggest to us? What direction are these fingers pointing in?

    Look at the development and history of religious thought through the aeons. I am sure that this is more important than what it was that they believed. What was discovered that could alter the basis of their beliefs?

    The treasure is not new, it has been known in the past but it has been forgotten. This surely has human spirituality at its very center. Why else call it The Great Work ? the Holy Grail ? even the Horn of Plenty?
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    Isn't that a bit of a leap? You seem to have already equated the Grail with something spiritual, but from what I've read (including Waite - bl--dy hell, what a pain to read!) ...there's no agreement on what the Grail is - let alone its origin. Why then should a term such as 'The Great Work' be spiritual? The 'Horn of Plenty' is ancient (well, at least the myths about such an object are) - what happens if it actually exists/extisted - why is that spiritual?
    If the arifacts that appear in the Irish annals, the stories of the sons of Zeus and their artifacts (look to Hermes and Hercules and what they were given by the gods) and the Graal legends (spear, sword, stone,cup) - if they are/were 'real', how would that be spiritual? AND, these myths pre-date Christianity by 1000 years. Wouldn't it just beg the question - where on earth did they come from?

    What if the dinosaurs didn't die out? What if they evolved into 'serpents' that used power of mind rather than physical attributes to 'control' their enviroment? Much as the LRB imples that their dreams affect us

    What if other civilisations had existed on earth before?

    What if other extra terrestrial civilisations had been here?

    What happens if certain books are encoded 'user manuals' or 'treasure maps' that show mankind how to use (and where to find) certain ancient artifacts? What if this book is (as it says) just a key to interpret a vast store of encoded tomes?

    Again, it could be that the answer is a crystal that re-tunes the mind of mankind to a higher frequency and takes him closer to G_d - but I haven't seen that in the LRB. I see Zeus, Hermes, Olympus,swords, staffs, serpents,rebel beasts, the power of dreams, Jewish 'folk-lore' (of the same period as the Greek myths ie circa 2500BC to 900BC) - and a couple of references to AD characters.

    Why would any of that be spiritual? BUT, they could all effect religion.
    Hi Jlockest,
    I am using the term spiritual because I think that it is more inclusive than the term religion, in the way that atheists who do not believe in God can be spiritual.

    Religion is about human inner ( spiritual ) development. The artifact has something to do with religious history.

    It need not prove that God exists or that any of the myths are true.

    The multiple descriptions of The Holy Grail leave us with no definite idea of what it actually is. No wonder as I think it is about the human psyche, and how can this be described as an object. Like wise The Great Work is the labour of perfecting ourselves, again pointing to our inner life, spirituality if you are so inclined to call it.

    It seems to me that the gods are facets and parts of ourselves rather than other entities.

    It is also possible that we have civilizations in the past that we still do not know anything about. As time moves forward the likelyhood of this remaining undetected gets ever smaller. Proof is needed and civilizations leave tracks behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    I've been looking for the reference for my post above in the interviews but I can't find it.

    I may have to do so recanting myself.

    It might be better to ignore what I said above until it can be verified.

    Does anyone else have a recollection of Duncan's comment?
    Hi Horace,

    I seem to remember it being more along the lines of the secret affecting the basis on which our faith is founded. Gosh after four years at this stuff who can keep track of every thing we have read.

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    Thanks everyone for finding the relevant comments.

    Now that is interesting.

    The Bahai recanted. "The world's religions all evolving from one source" idea no longer stands. The "Enki's rear vision mirror of his space saucer" artifact bites the dust. Pity as this could have been a rather fun conclusion.

    Reading between the lines it is looking like it does have to do with the psyche, as the secret is not specific to any religion.

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    The secret alters the basis on which religions are founded.

    In this case the secret need not be spiritual in itself Jlockest, but it will effect peoples spirituality.

    Sorry, please disregard the last line from post 97 in this thread. I could not delete it as the time period had passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    The secret alters the basis on which religions are founded.

    In this case the secret need not be spiritual in itself Jlockest, but it will effect peoples spirituality.

    Sorry, please disregard the last line from post 97 in this thread. I could not delete it as the time period had passed.
    OK - but would then say that any artifact that related to the Greek gods was spiritual or religious? I wouldn't, and I wouldn't see an artifact that related to the Egyptian pantheon as religious. The main reason is that as 'religions' die, future generations see them as myth only and laugh at the gullibility of the people who did believe.
    My 'thing' here is that the LRB text is based mainly 3,500 years ago - so is that 'myth' era. Maybe I'm cynical or just generally odd, but I wouldn't accept that even if they found the Ark and it had wondrous powers, that it proved G_d existed. It would make me wonder where the technology came from to build it. Ditto for a wondrous sword, staff (spear), cup or stone.
    As a test - read the OT without the preconception that it's a holy book - and you'd be just amazed at what you read. It's not spiritual or holy. It's about a race on a journey and their jealous, vengeful god. Much as the Odyssey.

    That was the change that occurred between in the desert between the old and the new - that jealous/vengeful god went from being a physical being (like Zeus/Jupiter - they mingled with man, had sex with man/woman) to an all seeing 'invisible' being. The gods of Greece/Egypt disappeared and a new G_d replaced them. The new G_d IS (in) everything, IS everywhere, knows everything. The old gods although powerful were not omniscient. The new G_d is.

    So to me, any artifact MUST be just that - it can't be spiritual OR religious as if my G_d had created it - it is just a thing - like the world is a thing, the universe is a thing.

    Maybe its a terminology thing as to me spiritualilty is something inside each person (that bit that connetcs with G_d) - it is not writing or in writing, it is not music, it is not a mantra, it is not an artifact, it is not a symbol. 'Love can be anything, can nothing be love but love ...' as the old Temptations song says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    The secret alters the basis on which religions are founded.

    In this case the secret need not be spiritual in itself Jlockest, but it will effect peoples spirituality.

    Sorry, please disregard the last line from post 97 in this thread. I could not delete it as the time period had passed.

    Azoth,

    Astree's post (#94)(assuming Robin Hilton got it right) shows that Duncan has had it both ways.

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