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    Question still here

    I'm still here. Just having a bit of a break. Up to
    " In Egypt he could read the messages of dreams sent from the topless mount of Olympus, where truth is protected in its tender frame."
    But sorta got stumped there so i decided i needed a break. Have heaps of images so far but they seem to be bits and pieces. i think from this stage in i may get something that can be the start of a construction.
    Forum has been quiet. Havent seen any updates on the staus of PP or DB so whether PP etc has gone into recievership/liquidation is still conjecture.
    The fact that the clues on TM have ceased doesnt bode well though.
    It would be great if someone from PP or even DB posted something to tell us whats going on. After all there have been many of us who have dedicated up to 5 years on this. Iregardless of any legalities it would be pure courtesy to keep us up to date or at least be let us know what is happening.

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    I'm definitely down with Linz' thinking on this-Qabala,yes-most certainly.
    Mechanical approach?,that sounds a positive way of looking at things and highly likely to be what we are seeking here-We are talking a device after all?
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom O' Bedlam View Post
    I'm definitely down with Linz' thinking on this-Qabala,yes-most certainly.
    Mechanical approach?,that sounds a positive way of looking at things and highly likely to be what we are seeking here-We are talking a device after all?
    Tom
    I came up with the Kabbala at this sentence
    "Through the secrets entrusted only to the priesthood, from the messengers of the divine, through their sharing of the sacred design. "

    What secrets were entrusted ONLY to the Priesthood?
    The Sacred design – generally known as the Tree of Life.

    Who by – The Messengers of the Devine.
    Mysteries believed that its principles were first taught by God to a school of His angels before the fall of
    man. The angels later communicated the secrets to Adam, so that through the knowledge gained from an understanding of its principles fallen humanity might regain its lost estate.
    The Angel Raziel was dispatched from heaven to instruct Adam in the mysteries of the Qabbalah. Different angels were employed to initiate the succeeding patriarchs in this difficult science. Tophiel was the teacher of Shem, Raphael of Isaac, Metatron of Moses, and Michael of David. (See Faiths of the World.)
    Christian D. Ginsburg has written: "From Adam it passed over to Noah, and then to Abraham, the friend
    of God, who emigrated with it to Egypt, where the patriarch allowed a portion of this mysterious
    doctrine to ooze out. It was in this way that the Egyptians obtained some knowledge of it, and the other
    Eastern nations could introduce it into their philosophical systems. Moses, who was learned in all the
    wisdom of Egypt, was first initiated into it in the land of his birth, but became most proficient in it
    during his wanderings in the wilderness, when he not only devoted to it the leisure hours of the whole
    forty years, but received lessons in it from one of the angels. * * * Moses also initiated the seventy
    Elders into the secrets of this doctrine and they again transmitted them from hand to hand. Of all who
    formed the unbroken line of tradition, David and Solomon were most initiated into the Kabbalah." (See
    The Kabbalah.)
    THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES
    by Manly P. Hall [1928, copyright not renewed]
    As it relates to this puzzle we have Hermes, Joseph, Mosis and Aaron.
    How – They shared the Sacred Design.
    See above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmonk View Post
    I have found the key :- The key is Kabbalah.

    The answer is right under nose like everything in life the best kept secrets are there for everyone to see. Why? because only people who really know can see them. Think about it.

    The depth of wisdom and learning contained in the Book of Zohar is concealed behind a thousand locked gates.

    Why is it “concealed behind a thousand locked gates”? In actual fact, no one conceals anything; everything exists within the framework of the natural laws of the creation. Unlike in this world, there is no key that can unlock the gates to enter where one may or may not be. The spiritual world is completely open; a person just advances from one spiritual level to another, and leaves one realm to enter the next in accordance with the way he changes his own properties.

    In our world an object can be moved from one place to another by way of mechanical displacement, whereas in the spiritual world we need to make an inner motion in order to pass from one part of the world to another. This is what they call a locked gate; as long as the person is confined to one part, the next one remains concealed, “locked” from him.

    What can be done to open it? Transform yourself in accordance with the part you wish to enter, and then you will get inside. It is pretty simple. Everything exists within man.

    EVERYTHING EXISTS WITHIN MAN.

    if you dont move you dont go anywere.
    That reminded me of a part from the Gospel of St Thomas.

    ...the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and it is you who are that poverty.
    The last sentence reminds of the phrase from the puzzle about With me the poor are rich and without me the rich are poor.

    The pdf solution does seem like a hastily put together, pathetic excuse for an answer. Especially given the amount of information in the Companion and five years of clues.

    I have the feeling there's still more than meets the eye to the puzzle than what we've seen so far. Just have to wait and see what more develops.
    When life gives you lemons make lemonade. When it gives you limes get some salt and tequila and do shots!

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    We are talking a device after all?
    Tom
    Yes Tom, and a good place to start is THISLOSTART which tells you what you are looking for. A bit difficult though, because the art ain't quite the same and the device is elsewhere.

    That's why one had to be a Priest and Scribe of "THIS work" to get anywhere right from the get go.

    The device, as I have said before, is writ large. Be imaginative and artistic. But remember, finding the device is only the first step. Then you've got to get it working. Codes, codes and time. And I don't mean ciphers here either. All very difficult and not well assisted by the clues at all.

    Incidentally, there is no intention here to mislead, in case you were wondering.

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    One last thing, IMHO this device provides the additional information required to go on and do the tree of life, etc.

    Getting the device to work is a nightmare!

    Unfortunately, there is also the possibility that the device no longer works as expected, due the demise of Priory and the quest. They may have pulled the plug so to speak.
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    That's why one had to be a Priest and Scribe of "THIS work" to get anywhere right from the get go.
    Then I guess that leaves me out completely!
    Seriously though-I do agree with you;the device is everywhere,writ large as you state.
    Right now,I'm a little confused over where THISLOSTART fits in though.
    I shall ponder this awhile.
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom O' Bedlam View Post
    That's why one had to be a Priest and Scribe of "THIS work" to get anywhere right from the get go.
    Then I guess that leaves me out completely!
    Seriously though-I do agree with you;the device is everywhere,writ large as you state.
    Right now,I'm a little confused over where THISLOSTART fits in though.
    I shall ponder this awhile.
    Tom
    Simple really, ART
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    If you want to hide a secret, then put it where everyone can see it, surround it with false information or in this case religions and myths ect. Over time it becomes buried beneath a pile of false information. When you have done this ,it will remain forever in the public domain but very few will ever find it.

    The kabbalah is taught in the mystery schools , but along with a lot of other subjects. Roll back the years of time and i believe this was known around the world from east to west and north to south, nobody had exclusive rights to it, but each place worldwide interpreted it in their own way . Things went wrong when certain people decided that it should be buried for what reasons , who knows.

    Then for whatever reason spiritualism hit the the world ,along with various other things, but they are still a corrupt version of things. Like Percival of the grail legends each person must travel their own personal journey towards this. Every device is within you, along also with the tree of life and the tree of knowledge all contained within you.

    The answer the PP gave us i believe was very poor, while it does show certain things it seems rushed to me. The last clue we got in Jan 2011 was the only one that said draw a line ( please correct me if i am wrong i have not read them all for a while ) . It was almost like a get out of this puzzle clue, how was anyone meant to take that to the world and say here is the grail along with a part of the royal arch masons degree.

    The whole way this was done was a disgrace. While the PP may hold the rights to the way they constructed the puzzle , they do not hold the rights to the answer or NF texts, this belongs to each and every person. That leaves us all with the question, "why the silence"
    Everything is an illusion. With every action you create your future. With every thought you create your destiny. The only real thing is love. When you hurt another person you hurt yourself, When you forgive another person you forgive yourself. Many seek the holy grail, but you already have it. Wake up from the world of dreams you live in. Then you will find the answers you have always wanted.

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    Sorry just seen the december clue also. So that should be the december jan clues.
    Everything is an illusion. With every action you create your future. With every thought you create your destiny. The only real thing is love. When you hurt another person you hurt yourself, When you forgive another person you forgive yourself. Many seek the holy grail, but you already have it. Wake up from the world of dreams you live in. Then you will find the answers you have always wanted.

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