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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    for me, the sensation has always been like coming out of an egg..
    logically, one would think that once the egg was cracked, you would remain "out"..
    but since that's not the case.. I guess a more accurate description might be..
    like nylon.. when pulled becomes sheer and can be seen through.. then it returns to its original thickness and cannot be seen through..

    have you seen the movie A Beautiful Mind?
    That in / out “illusion” and permanence has been discussed by many experienced travelers through the ages. I think there is also a lot of mis-information, biased communications of actual experiences, and writings that are taken as authoritative which are actually hidden ego agendas. So, the waters we explore can be tricky.

    Flamel “made gold” twice (?) if I recall, so not continuously, although according to Duncans intro, he bacame a changed person during that time, no longer afraid of death.

    Levenson seems a clear writer (link below), he may not be completely unbiased. He writes about experince / perspective shift which are brief moments at first but can become more and more extended until becoming permanent, until the illusory aspects of the world are scorched from the mind. I think this relates to the dilemma you posed,

    https://www.stillnessspeaks.com/site...toultimate.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by astreeturover View Post
    That in / out “illusion” and permanence has been discussed by many experienced travelers through the ages. I think there is also a lot of mis-information, biased communications of actual experiences, and writings that are taken as authoritative which are actually hidden ego agendas. So, the waters we explore can be tricky.

    Flamel “made gold” twice (?) if I recall, so not continuously, although according to Duncans intro, he bacame a changed person during that time, no longer afraid of death.

    Levenson seems a clear writer (link below), he may not be completely unbiased. He writes about experince / perspective shift which are brief moments at first but can become more and more extended until becoming permanent, until the illusory aspects of the world are scorched from the mind. I think this relates to the dilemma you posed,

    https://www.stillnessspeaks.com/site...toultimate.pdf

    I saw A Beautiful Mind years ago. What did you take away from the movie?
    A few weeks back, the veil appeared to stretch sheer for me.. all of a sudden, the world around me seemed to "react" so very quickly to my thoughts.. what we have followed all along here, but much more instantaneous and constant!... knowledge and understanding suddenly became "available" to me simply by the action of my focus.. I looked at various parts of TTOTC and things suddenly became very clear.. out of nowhere!..

    the thing is.. if this was a result of "normal" reading and gaining understanding, it should have remained within the confines of what i was currently reading.. but instead, these inspirational eureka moments seemed to come from anything I put my mind to.. even the Maranatha book.. a thought would come.. i would turn to the page as if i knew exactly what i was doing.. and sure enough.. i would find previously hidden nuggets of information.. and it continued.. as I drove, the colors of cars.. and their license plates would speak to me so very precisely.. i slept very little during this time.. my mind was so active.. i slept maybe 3 hrs each night for almost a week..

    now i know.. this description sounds very familiar.. similar to a commercial that has been playing for several months now.. i can see how this looks like a bipolar episode..
    but.. it just can't be.. because it becomes a chicken or egg first situation.. if it was a bipolar episode, linearly it would have to be the "chicken".. but in my situation.. i see the "egg" being first.. because I would have thoughts.. look up.. and see things that so perfectly and precisely match the context.. it was like a flowing languange.. as if in answer.. but yet those "things that pop up" were there before i had the thought.. so it's as if in anticipation.. the "egg first"... and i know you know what i mean.. at least i hope so, lol

    anyway.. my attempted description above reminds me very much of what was depicted in A Beautiful Mind.. and in the end.. I could feel such deep empathy for how he "let go" of the "madness".. denying it.. but inside.. knowing how completely valid and real "it" is.. but having to let go in order to "blend".. knowing it's there and real but just looking the other way

    thank you for asking astree.. it's nice to be able to vent about something that can be such a struggle sometimes..
    and thank you for the link.. I will definitely read it.. it recalls to me.. the laser in comic fiction.. and then it became reality..
    now I very much see CONTACT being like that.. the desire for it.. it's like the desire is making it become a reality.. lol.. i just need to read more Levenson and figure out how to make that happen everywhere else in my life!

    oh my goodness.. that's a whole lot of jibberish up there.. sorry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    A few weeks back, the veil appeared to stretch sheer for me.. all of a sudden, the world around me seemed to "react" so very quickly to my thoughts.. what we have followed all along here, but much more instantaneous and constant!... knowledge and understanding suddenly became "available" to me simply by the action of my focus.. I looked at various parts of TTOTC and things suddenly became very clear.. out of nowhere!..

    the thing is.. if this was a result of "normal" reading and gaining understanding, it should have remained within the confines of what i was currently reading.. but instead, these inspirational eureka moments seemed to come from anything I put my mind to.. even the Maranatha book.. a thought would come.. i would turn to the page as if i knew exactly what i was doing.. and sure enough.. i would find previously hidden nuggets of information.. and it continued.. as I drove, the colors of cars.. and their license plates would speak to me so very precisely.. i slept very little during this time.. my mind was so active.. i slept maybe 3 hrs each night for almost a week..

    now i know.. this description sounds very familiar.. similar to a commercial that has been playing for several months now.. i can see how this looks like a bipolar episode..
    but.. it just can't be.. because it becomes a chicken or egg first situation.. if it was a bipolar episode, linearly it would have to be the "chicken".. but in my situation.. i see the "egg" being first.. because I would have thoughts.. look up.. and see things that so perfectly and precisely match the context.. it was like a flowing languange.. as if in answer.. but yet those "things that pop up" were there before i had the thought.. so it's as if in anticipation.. the "egg first"... and i know you know what i mean.. at least i hope so, lol

    anyway.. my attempted description above reminds me very much of what was depicted in A Beautiful Mind.. and in the end.. I could feel such deep empathy for how he "let go" of the "madness".. denying it.. but inside.. knowing how completely valid and real "it" is.. but having to let go in order to "blend".. knowing it's there and real but just looking the other way

    thank you for asking astree.. it's nice to be able to vent about something that can be such a struggle sometimes..
    and thank you for the link.. I will definitely read it.. it recalls to me.. the laser in comic fiction.. and then it became reality..
    now I very much see CONTACT being like that.. the desire for it.. it's like the desire is making it become a reality.. lol.. i just need to read more Levenson and figure out how to make that happen everywhere else in my life!

    oh my goodness.. that's a whole lot of jibberish up there.. sorry?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVuIJp-WVKo

    https://www.uapinfo.net/extraordinar...r-david-fravor
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    Hi HT,

    Sorry, these comments are going to be rather brief and only my initial thoughts. Because I have other things I need to get to very soon.

    First I don’t think that your words are gibberish at all. In seeing through the veil you are going to a different perspective of oneness and outside of space time.

    In trying to bring this into an every day perspective (our material world conditioned mindset) that would include the time based analogy of the chicken and egg, there is going to be a sort of contradictions of language. Our every day means of communication through words of the every day language makes this very difficult to convey. It’s almost as though we need to accept that there are two world views and one of them is more easily explained only through tangential terms. But I think trying to reconcile your experience and do that every day Language is going to be difficult I will try to follow up more a little later
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    Another quick thought related to the Maranatha puzzle is that the right brain left brain, the Joseph and Moses, both exist in us.
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    Last one for now

    One of the things that I ran into working on the thrill of the chase puzzle is the phrase

    Cheshire Road

    It was very non-ambiguous, and had multiple meanings in the context that I found it. I thought this was so relevant also to the Maranatha puzzle
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    Quote Originally Posted by astreeturover View Post
    Another quick thought related to the Maranatha puzzle is that the right brain left brain, the Joseph and Moses, both exist in us.
    i gotcha.. yes, thank you for reminding me.. male dominated society.. mostly one sided thinking.. female thinking on the other hand (much under utilized/understood).. for example, exhibit A: Arrival

    heh.. and why bother explaining it to the other side of the brain
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arriva...)#cite_note-15)

    i remember now.. Apollo.. space/time is the skin.. the light.. what we see..
    and then what we don't "see" under the skin.. Artemis
    I tend to think of her as the Pearl.. the Peggy.. I am trying to coax her to come around

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    Quote Originally Posted by astreeturover View Post
    that would include the time based analogy of the chicken and egg
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    I tend to think of her as the Pearl.. the Peggy.. I am trying to coax her to come around
    just now seeing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by astreeturover View Post
    Hi HT,

    Sorry, these comments are going to be rather brief and only my initial thoughts. Because I have other things I need to get to very soon.

    First I don’t think that your words are gibberish at all. In seeing through the veil you are going to a different perspective of oneness and outside of space time.

    In trying to bring this into an every day perspective (our material world conditioned mindset) that would include the time based analogy of the chicken and egg, there is going to be a sort of contradictions of language. Our every day means of communication through words of the every day language makes this very difficult to convey. It’s almost as though we need to accept that there are two world views and one of them is more easily explained only through tangential terms. But I think trying to reconcile your experience and do that every day Language is going to be difficult I will try to follow up more a little later
    from psalm 16
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    surely I have a delightful inheritance.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyThoth View Post
    from psalm 16
    The boundary lines have fallen for me in pleasant places;
    surely I have a delightful inheritance.""
    I have made much of putting in below the home of Brown hair

    heir to the throne..

    to ERR is to be human..

    error is the greatest teacher..

    Herr Doktor

    to coin a phrase.. to make it HANDsome..

    Had I kenn'd all that were

    MACKENZIE
    From the Gaelic surname Mac Coinnich, which means "son of COINNEACH".

    COINNEACH
    Derived from Gaelic caoin "handsome". It is often Anglicized as Kenneth.

    CINÁED
    Means "born of fire" in Gaelic. This was the name of the first king of the Scots and Picts (9th century). It is often Anglicized as Kenneth.

    NIMROD


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod,_Oregon
    mckenzie river

    sometimes he signs "ff"..
    but often he signs just "f"
    pronounced ef

    E.F.
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