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    Hi Everyone,


    I just wanted to share a few things that I found interesting in relation to the "Key" as Duncan had posted on Andrew Gough's site. I will preclude this by stating that although I believe what is here to be significant, I don't know 'what' this information reveals. I'm hoping others might be able to offer some feedback.. It could also be that what would have made it into Part 2 of the puzzle would have shed more light on this.

    To begin with Duncan's article on the Arcadia site, "The Time Monk Project", he makes note of a few suggestions that got me thinking.
    Starting with (found at the end of the article) the suggestion relating to Poussin's Self Portrait, Duncan states that the same tilted hexagram can be found in this painting by using the eye on the crown of the female figure. Someone on the Arcadia site had posted their results, I had in the meantime came up with a solution as well but didn't post it there as I had slightly different reference points in making the shape:



    After doing this, I felt that by following some other suggestions made by Duncan, something will come out of the process. I looked into the part of the article "The Geometric Key" where he states at the end: "(Obviously, a hexagram is easy to produce by reversing the final stage to create an opposing equilateral triangle.)" What came about from this was quite interesting in that it has some significant correspondences with the 12 zodiac constelletions, 12 months of a year and 12 hours on a clock. If you complete an opposing hexagram, inverting the process you have the following:



    It took me a little while to figure out why the 2 overlaid hexagrams would be of interest and I didn't even make the zodiac wheel connection until realizing that the 15 degree separation between each point marked the "center" of each zodiac house on the wheel. The green lines which mark the middle between each extended point would be the place of the numbers of the clock 1-12.

    As the name of the project is "Time Monk", I am leaning towards thinking that this seemingly "divine geometric" creation or division of time that is discovered in a square or by a cross is perhaps the idea that created the calendar wheel and the 12- one hour segments of the clock.

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    Further thoughts:

    As Duncan had mentioned, the team had divided the well-known "Shepherdess" clue into two parts. The first half up to the words PAX 681 related to the "key".
    The second have of the clue would be the words following "By The Cross and This Horse of God I Complete This Guardian Demon at Midday Blue Apples..." this would relate to the "lock" and the contents of the unpublished 2nd book.

    Some thoughts about the Cross and This Horse of God (and I believe others in the past may have posted similar thoughts) would be the Constellation of Cygnus (shape of cross) and Pegasus (containing the Great Square)?

    These two are somewhat close to each other in the sky as well:




    As I mentioned, if anyone has any feedback it would be welcomed.




    Another interesting fact:
    Noon (midday) of January 17th is 23.5 days after Christmas.


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    Thank you hayward,
    Would agree with your take on zodiac and 15 degree seperation providing a centre-point.
    What I'm confused over is the 'Time Monk Project' article which verified these geometries contains a glaring inaccuracy-The painting Duncan presented as being David Tenier's creation,isnt the real Teniers,its a copy after Teniers,originating from the Shugborough Estate and painted during the 19th century.The geometric centre on the painting Duncan used is the pointing finger on the raised hand of the 'Desert Father'. As the original painting does not show him with his hand raised,then surely this might make the geometric construction somewhat questionable,at least in the case of David Teniers?
    I find it hard to accept that Duncan and Co. would make such a mistake,leading me to wonder might it suggest that important information is contained within BOTH paintings which might not apply exclusively to the geometries?
    Sorry I cant post the two paintings side by side here,having problems uploading.

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    David Teniers original rendition;
    Reopening of the Musée départemental de Flandres in Cassel - The Art Tribune
    The Shugborough Copy;
    TENIERS

    Seems a few people have been taken in by this.

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    Anyone found the BEAR yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom O' Bedlam View Post
    David Teniers original rendition;
    Reopening of the Musée départemental de Flandres in Cassel - The Art Tribune
    The Shugborough Copy;
    TENIERS

    Seems a few people have been taken in by this.
    An interesting point Tom regarding the Teniers painting. That particular version which was used to demonstrate the geometry by Duncan had previously seemed to be a somewhat orphaned jpeg, always the same low-res image floating around the internet from an unknown source.

    Also, some interesting discrepancies between the Shughborough version and the version at the Muse de Flandres. In the Flandres, there appears to be text in the large open book but not in the Shughborogh. The staff leaning on the stone plinth is not present in the Flandres. In the Flandres version, there is no crucifix and the skull is turned the other way, with the hourglass on its opposite side. The figure or figures that appear to be on the ground next to the tree in the lower right side of the Shughborough version are up on the top of the hill under the village in the Flandres. There appear to be more differences as well.

    Are you certain of its status as a copy or could it be another version of the same scene by the same artist?

    Thanks for bringing this up, it should really throw up doubt regarding the claimed Teniers painting and if the deciphered text is referring to it or to something else. If you buy that the whole story of the 'Shepherdess' text is fabricated as part of their hoax, but meant to convey a secret, then what relationship do the authors have to the Teniers painting, whether to the copy or otherwise?

    The only references I've seen of that picture being placed at Shughborough have been alleged claims or various sites and with such poor documentation, it does beg the question of whether the originators could have been familiar with this to be referring to it in the first place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom O' Bedlam View Post
    Anyone found the BEAR yet?
    nope, not yet


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    Quote Originally Posted by hayward View Post

    Thanks, hayward, the background and references. Also, intereted as to any possible coding Poussin may have generated on the writing on the wall behind portrait.

    Puzzlers, if interested, may compare the earth-sun (vertical) angle on p. 13. Begin with the line connecting the two sun glyphs.

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