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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    Yes it does. Why? What is the legend about Shakespeare?

    Have you ever heard that Sir Francis Bacon was really the writer of the plays and Shakespeare was not? Duncan pointed this out. Part of the legend is that a Baconian cipher is hidden in the Shakespeare plays. You need the original texts, but I have not dug into it much. There is also a possible Baconian cipher in the King James Bible.
    And various other theories. Possible Baconian cipher - which must mean there isn't. As there either is or isn't. As I could then say there's a possible cipher in 1984 or Animal Farm or Harry Potter or Winter Kills or In Search Of The Edge Of Time or.....

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    Francis Bacon was the final editor of the King James Bible and he took about a year to do his work.
    And?

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    Duncan also said the Francis Bacon was the likely person who developed the Masonic rituals.

    He also wrote "New Atlantis", which many say is a blueprint for building America.
    Good grief. What D also said was that the group got together to sift through the dross surrounding RLC and to then establish FACTS. Now what is really odd, is that D's blog is full of conjectural statements - and very few provable facts. So here, in one post, you use allusion, possibly, likely and many say...Don't you see you're fuelling what D and the group were allegedly formed to stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    Yes it does, and yes you have missed it. It is not an interpretation. The proof is in the math.

    Duncan told us what version.
    What Maths?
    So I missed in Revelation a statement that says '...Jesus' number is 666..' as unequivocally as that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlockest View Post
    What Maths?
    So I missed in Revelation a statement that says '...Jesus' number is 666..' as unequivocally as that?
    Yes, it says just that. You just have to learn how to read.

    Chasing the Ark of God - 666 – A Divine Number

    Do you really want to learn or do you just like arguing for the fun of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    Yes, it says just that. You just have to learn how to read.

    Chasing the Ark of God - 666 – A Divine Number

    Do you really want to learn or do you just like arguing for the fun of it?
    So it doesn't say that at all then? And it is interpretation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    Yes, it says just that. You just have to learn how to read.

    Chasing the Ark of God - 666 – A Divine Number

    Do you really want to learn or do you just like arguing for the fun of it?
    No - you yourserlf in your own article say:
    '.....13:18 does not mention the name ‘Antichrist’ at all. In fact, the name, ‘Antichrist’, does not even appear anywhere in the entire book of Revelation. So, how did the number 666 ever get connected to the Antichrist?....'

    The passage you quote doesn't say Jesus either does it? It says beast doesn't it - and you have 'interpreted' that to mean Jesus, just as others interpret it to mean the Antichrist. But I thought you said it wasn't interpretation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlockest View Post
    No - you yourserlf in your own article say:
    '.....13:18 does not mention the name ‘Antichrist’ at all. In fact, the name, ‘Antichrist’, does not even appear anywhere in the entire book of Revelation. So, how did the number 666 ever get connected to the Antichrist?....'

    The passage you quote doesn't say Jesus either does it? It says beast doesn't it - and you have 'interpreted' that to mean Jesus, just as others interpret it to mean the Antichrist. But I thought you said it wasn't interpretation?
    I guess you cannot read anything other than what you want to, huh?

    If you would pay attention, you would understand that we are talking about a code.

    BEAST = 47,

    JESUS = 74.

    Jesus is the first and last.

    That implies reversals or mirror images. Numerically, it means reverse the numbers.

    So, when the value of BEAST is reversed, you get the value of JESUS.

    If that goes over your head, I'd recommend that you give up treasure hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    I guess you cannot read anything other than what you want to, huh?

    If you would pay attention, you would understand that we are talking about a code.

    BEAST = 47,

    JESUS = 74.

    Jesus is the first and last.

    That implies reversals or mirror images. Numerically, it means reverse the numbers.

    So, when the value of BEAST is reversed, you get the value of JESUS.

    If that goes over your head, I'd recommend that you give up treasure hunting.
    Pws,
    So it is interpretation then? I thought you said it wasn't.
    I'm also not quite sure how you get from '..the first and last..' (which seems to imply to me the ... first ... and ... last...) to mean you have to reverse things.If it said '....the first and last and the last and first...' then yes, maybe you could say it implied reversal. Otherwise I don't see reversal bein implied in that phrase at all.

    Also, given the context of Rev 13 - are you saying that the whole of Rev 13 is talking about Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlockest View Post
    Pws,
    So it is interpretation then? I thought you said it wasn't.
    I'm also not quite sure how you get from '..the first and last..' (which seems to imply to me the ... first ... and ... last...) to mean you have to reverse things.If it said '....the first and last and the last and first...' then yes, maybe you could say it implied reversal. Otherwise I don't see reversal bein implied in that phrase at all.

    Also, given the context of Rev 13 - are you saying that the whole of Rev 13 is talking about Jesus?
    Yes!!!!!!!!!!

    To qualify my answer, we should be able to tie everything in Revelation to the breaking of the code in some manner, but it ain't easy and all of it may not fit until we have broken the code entirely.

    Revelation 13 has some interesting stuff in it and I'm curious where you are going with this, so I'll humor you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111 View Post
    Yes!!!!!!!!!!

    To qualify my answer, we should be able to tie everything in Revelation to the breaking of the code in some manner, but it ain't easy and all of it may not fit until we have broken the code entirely.

    Revelation 13 has some interesting stuff in it and I'm curious where you are going with this, so I'll humor you.
    I wasn't going any further than what I asked. Personally, I don't see that 'Jesus' then fits as either of the beasts in Revelation 13, given what it says about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlockest View Post
    I wasn't going any further than what I asked. Personally, I don't see that 'Jesus' then fits as either of the beasts in Revelation 13, given what it says about them.
    Revelation is probably the most difficult book in the Bible to understand. My Pastor rarely wants to dive into it because you will get as many different opinions about that book as you have people discussing it at any given time. revelation basically means "to reveal" or pull back the veil. To me, it just screams "code", but only time will tell if I am right.

    I understand that saying Jesus is the Beast is really difficult to accept, and maybe that interpretation is only valid in Revelation 13:18. When I first started going down this path, it was a huge internal struggle to accept. I have been a Christian practically my whole life and this to me was almost blasphemous. It took a while before I could just allow myself to follow it. Right or wrong, the problem is that it works. If I had hit a dead end at any point, then we would not be having this discussion.

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