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    Well I have some ideas. Let's drop deriving ABSCISSA for now. Now that we have induced a reference to a training tool specifically used to allow students to practice decryption, I stand on my earlier assertion that Abscissa was intended to be discovered using the overlapping 4 char crib, and the elements of scientific decryption as laid out by Friedman's seminal 1922 work: MilCryp.

    In this scenario, K2 is a message FROM Hydra. It is a training exercise.
    K3 begins, EN DYAHR. In other words, in Morse telegraphy TO HYDRA.

    Your earlier work to derive BASIC and ABSCII applies. In the message to Hydra, the actual message is hidden within an exciting passage about decryption. It makes perfect sense, and as such, disguises the possibility of another message contained in the text. Here is where I sense Bacon, who believed that the art of cryptography rested on hiding things in the open, concealing the fact that an alternate decryption even existed.

    So, combining these speculative ideas, it seems to me that by altering the base (i.e.: converting the text to ASCII or some other fixed bit binary alphabet in K3, We may find something.

    Here is a brand new idea that just came to me, and I believe it to be entirely novel. Both you and I have noted the 75 word equivalence of K2 and K3. If I converted K3 (or the Morse) into a binary string of 1 and 0, I could in theory created a novel sentence, using the two vocabularies.

    For example, Let's say (randomly) we get a string like 100100011100. in this hypothetical scenario, we are thus instructed to use the first word from the location in the 1 register: i.e.: K2. OK, the word is "It".
    Next, the second word comes from K3, indicated by the "0". "desparately."

    Our decryption thus reads: " It desperately..."

    In theory we could continue like this and generate a very long string of novel plaintext.

    What do you think about this new straw man? It satisfies me in many ways, as the more I understand and agree with the calendar theory, the more I think it may ultimately apply to K4 and not K3.

    My mind is wide open, however.

    Tim

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    I think we're at a good place to ask what exactly is Layer One and what is Layer Two? If Im looking at K1 and K2, both may be calendars. Layering them...placing one over the other may include the various options of being rotated or even reversed. Maybe those date numbers that are important map to new dates. Is Sanborn showing us how he has designed a specific encryption process?
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    OK. Hard stop for a second. While driving in to work this morning I had a vision in my car of what Kryptos may really be. I think this very well be "the solve", but time will tell, and I will certainly need your help.


    Earlier in this thread I explained that I think I have deduced the morse encoding. This was the strategy that coverted LUCIDMEMORY to MADEOFNI|INUSAEEE. I discovered that the e's padding is to force the symmetry on the shared letter I in the center. If we abscise the shared letter, we have a 14 character string. My first flash of insight was that if we could produce seven such strings, we would have a grid containing 98 letters.


    Next,


    I realized that MADEOFNIINUSA, obviously references US currency, and by extension Jefferson. TJEFFERSON is a 10 letter word. All the other "answers to clues" in the morse thus far have also produced 10 letter words, by my accounting.


    So here's the secret to unfolding Kryptos.


    We have a double reflection. We will expose the as-yet undisclosed K3 duress code, by doing the alternation back and forth between the two dictionaries-K2 and K3.


    At the moment I have two theories as to the string that will provide the right plaintext. theory number one is that I'm going to use K4, finding a purely visual way to convert the letters to binary. I like the idea of straight topped letters versus curved top letters. The line above the morse characters in the denominators made me investigate and see that the denominators overwhelmingly have straight topped letters, and the numerators, curved tops. Not exclusively, but enough for me to notice.


    The other idea was to use the reconstituted dot dash string from the Morse that we created earlier in the thread, adjusted into palindromes.


    But do you see what happened:


    We have established a 98 letter correspondence between K4 and the Morse, in duplication of the same relationship in K2/K3. It show me quite clearly a thematic consistency and simplicity that suggest we are very much on the right track.


    Somewhat disappointingly to my earlier theories about the calendar, I think we are going to make a picture with the calendar using the key dates: A five pointed Star to memorialize a very important person, who until now, has not had one.


    What say?

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    [A notice to voiceless seekers: I'm going to let the cat out of the bag on "K6" right now to you! In one week of courteous dialog, two unrelated people, using only communication, open minds, and a willingness to say: "it may be more simple than we think", and "I might have been wrong about that", and "that's very interesting, I'll check it out"; have managed to make more progress on Kryptos than the public has in 25 Years!


    Hmm...Can you see anything? If so, please speak up. I know I speak for erexere, we don't mind sharing the credit. In case you didn't notice, there's no place to turn in the answer anyway. Can you see anything?


    Positively,


    Tim

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    NATHANHALE indeed. We now have 5.
    TJEFFERSON
    TECHNOLOGY
    COUNTERPOINT
    TUTANKAMUN


    and I'm still working on the TISYOURPOSITIONINTERPRETATIT of WASHINGTON

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    Oh Man, This is crazy!
    OK COUNTERPOINT is wrong.
    [I'll have to tell a little story. This is a crazy look into the way a mind works.
    I had an amazing music teacher in High School: Mr. Betjeman. He was the son of John Betjeman, the UK's poet laureate, who died the year I graduated. Paul was a brilliant musician, but passionately committed to teaching. We crossed paths often, because I had a pure alto voice at that time, and his passion was the chorus, and in a small prep school, he recruited aggressively. Complete use of his basement studio (over the top stuff: McIntosh, B&O, Hallicrafters), if I'd sing. I didn't even have to take a class! Deal. Second tangency: Betjeman also liked me because I had extensive Latin at that point, taught by Augustus Trowbridge, and he didn't have to explain that much about Fux, Johannes: Trowbridge had assigned it for Latin 2 years earlier]


    So...


    In work published in my blog I illustrate a series of clues that refer to "see the little breach" "passage corner in West"


    Suddenly I remembered the famous quote (a passage really) from John (IOHANNES) in the Lobby of the OHB. Hmm. Which quote was that again? The CIA's motto John 8:32 (IOVIIIXXXII {I'll explain why John=IO later, it's Latin and boring}): And Ye Shall Know the Truth and the Truth Shall Make You Free.


    It was ALANDULLES's idea.


    Wham.

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    Amazingly,
    There also seems to be clear point of tangency between Sanborn and BetjemanN, the elder. Wow. I was wondering what Sanborn did at Oxford. Made me think about A.C.Mace too.

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    Final 6 degrees observation. As a poor kid, with all the wrong bona fides, other than very good test scores, I often wonder how I got into that school in the first place. The Betjeman connection may have had more to do with it than I realized. In the school I went to earlier (where I was in a distinct racial minority as a white person), our Chorus was pretty damn good. We sang at Lincoln Center good. Our conductor/instructor was Clint Ingram, an enormous talent, and like Betjeman, not going to leave teaching for a million bucks. In Clint's pre-teaching days, he was an operatic baritone with an absolutely tremendous voice. He played Monostatos in The Magic Flute for example, a role not for the meek of voice. He made an impression then on a young Denyce Graves, who was in the chorus of the production. (search: "Diva" and "Graves" and I'm sure you'll find her). Like Ingram, Graves is noted for her commitment to helping and developing young artists, especially at the Wolf Trap Opera Company.


    Where?


    Fairfax Co. VA


    amazing!

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    Back on topic, I now think "TECHNOLOGY" is wrong. I'm seeing a list of Leadership figures, 10 characters each, and I'm getting a sense that if we order them chronographically, i.e.: TUT on the bottom and DULLES on the top, we'll have a grid whereby we can extract information acrostically. I like the thematic consistency with Palimpsest (secret text legible vertically) and Abscissa (we establish the x axis orientation first, then layer two?).


    So, Gus D. Hunt? IT? was it in FORMATION? He was the CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER, but I don't think we'll use his name.

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    No.
    G US DI T. Maybe DI is 51


    G[overnment] U[nited] S[states] 51 st?


    You mean DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA?


    erexere where r u?

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