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    Plans on robbing Jesse James:

    This summer where going to recover a rock carved by Jesse James which can be documented.

    A “James” autograph will sell for $10K, but a rock with his autograph? Regardless the autograph rock is NOT for sale, but I hope you join us on are adventure by this story.

    Where to being? Besides arm treasure hunts I also do real treasure hunts. I joined the Jesse James Historical Society several years ago, and even talked to his descendants and the relatives of the Younger’s.

    People where aware of my treasure hunting in the society, and any enquires to the society dealing with this aspect of the James and Youngers where passed off to me.

    A man out of Kansas contacted me via the society and was asking for help. While out metal detecting he came across some carvings. I asked him to send me some pictures, which he was kind enough to do. One of the pictures shows a carved skull. Another picture shows a ????? symbol (which has to be kept secret in order to prevent fraud, and as a way to validate other James discoveries) was used in a rock carving, What was most shocking where the pictures of the “James” name along with the date July 1876. One of his most famous train robberies took place at that time in the area.

    Not having anything to go off of, I asked what did he make of all of this? I had no idea what was going on, dam even most historians have no idea of this James secret.

    It was not till months later that I came across a small write up in a book by a folk writer. He said in 1925 a man near Hot Springs Arkansas found a rock with carvings on it. It had a carved ????? symbol (again a need to protect the symbol in order to validate any more future discoveries etc.) cross, 3 pronged fork, “James” and $30,000 carved on the rock.

    What really caught my attention was both sites had a carved ????? symbol. How could two sights unknown to people have the same symbol? How could each site be near a James robbery? .

    It was not until a few years back that the society passed along another man who found something. Again like the man from Kansas (who he never meant and knew) was out metal detecting an area and came across some carvings which he took pictures of.

    What he found was amazing, sure enough their was a carved ????? symbol (where he could not have this insight) a carving of a gun, the words Bod Dog and the initials WJJ. This he thought where the initials to Jesse James’s name and the reason he contacted me.

    As soon as he sent pictures and that ????? symbol showed up I was driving to meet him 1100 miles away. He was a nice man and we spent the day at the sight where he found the carvings. What everything pointed to was the highest peak in the area. It took a long time to walk down the cliff into the valley, but what we came across was golden, a rock carved with “James” on it. Thinking we might have found a treasure we flipped the rock over and ran the detectors, nothing came up. It was believed that Frank James went to these sights after Jesse’s death and cleaned them out. This was the insight given to me by the James family. How many sights where their? Could anything be recovered? Maybe not money or gold but anything owned by Frank and Jesse James? Hard to tell Frank along with Jesse took that secret to his grave.

    It has now been awhile and man who found this sight does not mind I recover the “James” rock. More research turned up a great story of how the James camped a few days in the area after a robbery and left. What they where doing was anyone’s guess.

    The problem thou is the rock weighs 300 pounds and will have to be dragged 3 miles down a valley to a truck.

    I hope to be able to do this summer and share more insights pictures and articles on this.

    Ben Wade


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    JAMES- YOUNGER GANG ROBBERIES The members of the James Younger Gang have been credited with many robberies in their time and today. As it was not in their individual best interest to admit at that time to being involved in any activity that might result in their legal detainment. It is difficult to pin point the exact amount liberated at each event. The gang members and families later exaggerated and the banks, trains, and stages tended to under report the amount. The authorities later admitted, they were concerned that accurate reporting which could lead to other advantageous activities and enterprising young men.
    There were several other robberies from time to time credited to the James-Younger Gang. Many "John Does" would rob, say they were Jesse and Gang, then disappear. From the passengers' point of view, you may not have returned with your possessions , but at least you had a story to tell that you were robbed by the best - the infamous James - Younger Gang.


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    Location Event Amount February 13, 1866 Liberty, Mo. Clay County Savings Association $62,000.00 October 30, 1866 Lexington, Mo Alexander Mitchell and Co. Bank $2,000.00 March 2, 1867 Savannah, Mo. Judge John McClain Banking House No record * May 22, 1867 Richmond, Mo. Hughes and Wasson Bank $4,000.00 * March 20, 1868 Russellville, Ky. Nimrod Long Banking Co. $14,000.00 December 7, 1869 Gallatin, Mo. Daviess County Savings Bank $700.00 June 3, 1871 Corydon, Iowa Ocobock Brothers' Bank $6,000.00 April 29, 1872 Columbia, Ky. Bank of Columbia $600.00 September 26, 1872 Kansas City Kansas City Exposition Ticket Office $10,000.00 May 27, 1873 St. Genevieve, Mo. Ste. Genevieve Savings Bank $4,100.00 July 21, 1873 Adair, Iowa Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad $6,000.00 January 15, 1874 Hot Springs, Ark. Stagecoach $3,000.00 January 31, 1874 Gad's Hill, Mo. Iron Mountain Railroad $12,000.00 April 1874 Austin, Tx. Stagecoach $3,000.00 August 30, 1874 Waverly-Lexington, Mo. Stagecoach * December 7, 1874 Cornith, Mississippi Tishomingo Savings Bank $10,000.00 * December 8, 1874 Muncie, Ks. Kansas Pacific Railroad $55,000.00 September 5, 1875 Huntington, WVa Bank $10,000.00 July 7, 1876 Rockey Cut, Mo. Missouri Pacific Railroad $15,000.00 September 7, 1876 Northfield, Mn. First National Bank $0.00 October 8, 1879 Glendale, Mo. Chicago and Alton Railroad $40,000.00 September 3 1880 Mammoth Cave, Ky. Stagecoach $1,800.00 March 11, 1881 Muscle Shoals, Alabama Government Paymaster July 15, 1881 Winston, Mo. Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad $2,000.00 September 7, 1881 Glendale, Mo. Chicago and Alton Railroad $15,000.00 * It is not known for certain that James-Younger Gang members took part in these robberies.

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    The James - Younger Organization

    http://www.islandnet.com/~the-gang/index.html

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