# Thread: The Lost Symbol Found - Grand National Cipher Challenge

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I was thinking that the anagram might just be a long statement leading to a "finding" that you will need to tell whoever on the phone. The number cipher may just have to be figured out since there won't be any directions........

Wouldn't that just be a kick in the head......

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Originally Posted by stvwz
I am working on a strategy to take the number cipher and divide by a certain number "X" that will leave a number that looks like a toll free number, then see if I can arrange the anagram to make it say " Divide the big number by "X" to yield the toll free number".

Well, only a gazillion combinations of that......

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As I said in a previous post the Factorization of n 62666161029351335 = 5 × 23021 × 544426054727

So the only numbers that divide cleanly into the cipher are:
62666161029351335 / 5 = 12533232205870267
62666161029351335 / 23021 = 2722130273635
62666161029351335 / 115105 = 544426054727
62666161029351335 / 544426054727 = 115105
62666161029351335 / 12533232205870267 = 5

I found this site that will give you a number's factorization
Factoris

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My computer didn't want to connect to the internet today, so now that it is, I'm worn out from being busy all day.

I know if I try to continue reading the book I'll fall asleep.

I agree with what was said above, the part in the rules about 'speak to' a person when you get the number, means to me, that you will have to say the right thing! So, even if you get one, thing right, you'll have to still get the other thing to make it all work.

If those who've already read the book haven't gotten it, I don't think I'll be able to figure it out.

nap time for me.

have fun all!

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hi everybody,
been going back through the contest and been trying to see how things could fit into the seabreeze computers encryter
heres what I got

A Tort Cobblestones Team Who Had Red Poem Ad Ceded Unto Thou
A Benefice Throne Puller, Not A Ivy Wheelhouse Morph Pill Toxin
A Witty Overtired Ace Bade The Funneling Theism In Owl Port
62666161029351335
(ALPHANUMERICAL)
12015182031522125192051132381581418541615513143545 42114201520815211251456935208181514516211212518,14 15201922252385512815211951315181681691212201524914 12392020251522518209185413521452085621141451291472 0859191391415231216151820
FBFFFAFA0BICEACCE
(SHIFT SYMBOLS)
!@)!%!*@)#!%@@!@%!(@)%!!#@#*!%*!\$!*%\$!^!%%!#!\$#%\$% \$@!!\$@)!%@)*!%@!!@%!\$%^(#%@)*!*!%!\$%!^@!!@!@%!*,!\$ !%@)!(@@@%@#*%%!@*!%@!!(%!#!%!*!^*!^(!@!@@)!%@\$(!\$ !@#(@)@)@%!%@@%!*@)(!*%\$!#%@!\$%@)*%^@!!\$!\$%!@(!\$&@ )*%(!(!#(!\$!%@#!@!^!%!*@)
^@^^^!^!)@(#%!##%
(CAPITOLS PLUS SHIFT SYMBOLS)
AT!%!*@)C!%@@!@%!(T%!!#W*!%H!\$R%\$P!%%!#A\$C%\$%U!\$@) !%T*!%@!AB%!\$%^(#%T*!*!%P@!!@!@%!*,N!%@)AI@@@%W*%% !@*!%@!!(%M!%!*!^*P(!@!@T!%@\$(!\$AW(@)@)@%O@@%!*@)( !*%\$A#%B!\$%T*%F@!!\$!\$%!@(!\$&T*%(!(!#I!\$O@#!@P!%!*@ )
tried different keywords like ENIGMA, Heredom, APOL,WIN,etc.....

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Like the article said, they made this puzzle one that 'machines' shouldn't be able to figure out.

WE need to 'learn from the past' and 'seek and we'll find'? hmmmm....

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Been there, done that. Nothing worked for me, either.

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## A General Question

As this is my first cipher challenge, I have a general question which I hope can be answered: Is there such a thing as a keyword to an anagram? Maybe because I have no experience in ciphers, I am confused about how to solve an anagram with nearly unlimited possibilities. But as was recently said, the solution to the anagram lies in something that was visible for the past 3 months. This would require some sort of key or number substitution, or phrase. But, how do you solve an anagram with a word, number or phrase? Do you eliminate those letters? Here is my trouble: what CAN you do with a word, number or phrase to solve an anagram?
One other thing, The concept of a sigil on a trestleboard, or the magic square, does give numbers. But I have no idea how to use these concepts to solve an anagram. Any help please? Thanks, you guys are SMART!!

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## Good Hi Res image of the seal

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## Another question

Has anyone been able to hear the word spoken by the voice over announcer on the 3:28 Apollyon Rising promo? It sounds like the first thing said is See... Novus Ordo Seclorum, and then I can't catch the rest just before the guy wakes up screaming. Any ideas?
Thanks.

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it is novus ordo seclorum backwards, i listened to it quite a few times thinking it was a clue...