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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanArcher View Post
    Apparently there is a portion of a road trip from where the start of the poem suggests, because the other threads refer to his stating that he "walked back to his car after placing the box". Also, the poem itself says the distance is too far to walk.
    I agree, the second stanza should read:

    (Drive to) where warm waters halt
    (Then drive down the canyon),
    No far (by car), but too far to walk.
    (Park and start walking) below the home of Brown.

    This scenario implies the home of Brown is roadside, perhaps a cemetery?

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    aces,

    I hadn't considered 'put in' to be a drive followed by a walk.

    I thought it was a walk followed by getting in some sort of canoe or watercraft.

    Thanks for the idea.

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    Forrest Fenn has said in more recent interviews, that to solve this, the poem is like a riddle, and it must be solved by starting at the beginning. So I believe that each of these clues are in some kind of step-by-step order. Here is the first part of the poem again:

    Begin it where warm waters halt
    And take it in the canyon down,
    Not far, but too far to walk.
    Put in below the home of Brown.

    I think the first step would be to try to decipher what he means by "where warm waters halt". He has said there are nine clues, and this must be the first of the nine.

    What are we to take in the canyon down? I think there is some sort of boat involved. We are to take a boat down into the canyon. That is why it is not far, but too far to walk. Travel by a boat is involved. The words, "Put in" usually refer to putting a raft in a place where you do white water rafting.

    Forrest Fenn has said it is cold. Could he be referring to cold waters? Could this be alpine waters? Could this be where the warm waters halt? There are alpine lakes in New Mexico. Just some ideas...

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    I don't believe a canoe, or any water craft, is necessary. If the cache is meant to survive for a millennium as inferred by Mr. Fenn, then it certainly would not be placed in a stream or river because itís just too dynamic an area. Caves offer the best protection (think dead sea scrolls, pre-Columbian artifacts, cave art, etc.)

    He also said that after placing the cache he walked back to the car. I can't see him paddling "too far to walk", and then walking back to the car.


    I think the third stanza should read:

    From there it's no place for the meek (bushwhack over rough terrain, no canoe)
    The end is ever drawing nigh (box canyon?)
    There'll be no paddle up your creek (because itís too shallow, no canoe)"
    Just heavy loads (why plural?) and water high (waterfalls, no canoe)"

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    Well, I didn't say he put it in water. Only that water may be a means of transportation. He may get out of the boat and walk again.

    He has also said that the treasure has been water-proofed. I am not saying this because I believe it is underwater, but just because it must be in some place that is open to the elements. Fenn has never said it has been buried. But even burying it would require waterproofing.

    I am certainly not discounting a cave. A cave could be a very likely hiding place.

    If "Brown" signifies any type of civilization, such as a real house, or a cemetery, then the hiding place better be very well-concealed because no one has yet stumbled upon it. And I don't think Fenn would have hidden it any place where it might have accidentally been found.

    Personally, I think it is hidden in a wooded area. Could it be in a cave in a wooded area? Maybe.

    I am just tossing out some ideas. This poem can be interpreted in so many different ways. That is why this is so difficult.

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    '...the home of Brown'.

    1. Brown trout are in several rivers and streams in those mountains.
    2. Brown bats are very common in that area--would go along with some sort of cave.

    I was even thinking 'Charlie Brown'--so if there was some edifice called 'Charlie's' somewhere--that might be a 'house of Brown'.

    As pointed out, the subsequent clues may be somewhat meaningless until you're at the correct place. A true 'treasure hunt' which requires going from location-to-location.

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    I was just offering my opinion so please take it for what it's worth.

    Looking at the chest I can see it is not waterproof and no reason why it should be. I believe he just waterproofed his bio that he put in a sealed bottle inside the case. I only mentioned about it not being underwater because I saw a video of people looking under rocks in a fast flowing stream. Besides, it's tough to do if you want your bones to be found beside the case, but a cave would be nice.

    A barely readable old tombstone could indicate the final "home" of a long gone Mr. or Mrs. Brown. If you find an area worth exploring maybe a paper chase at the local town hall or library would be beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    '...the home of Brown'.

    1. Brown trout are in several rivers and streams in those mountains.
    Some info on a place not too far north of Santa Fe,

    "The Cimarron River is a small tail-water flowing out of Eagle Nest Lake and averages 20 feet wide. Although technically a tail-water fishery; the Cimarron does not look or fish like one, it is more representative of a classic freestone mountain stream with riffles, pockets, bend pools, undercut banks and beaver ponds.

    The Cimarron is considered one of the healthiest wild brown trout fisheries throughout the Southwest with nearly 4,000 catchable sized wild browns per mile. Most of the browns landed are in the 10-14 inch range with the occasional larger brown. New Mexico Game and Fish does stock some rainbows in the public water.

    There is approximately 9-10 miles of public access on the Cimarron in the Cimarron Canyon State Park and Colin Neblett Wildlife Area..."

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    Great to see some fresh ideas flowing into this hunt thread....
    However, this is where we have to have admin open a separate thread with sub-headings, a la the old Treasure Trove forums

    Poem:
    1st stanza
    2nd stanza
    etc.

    Locations

    Autobiography clues



    a lot easier to add and read up on ideas

    pac

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