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    Thanks for posting that armchair1. Here are my thoughts:

    #1 At least they addressed why "Camelot" has "disappeared". And I believe what they are saying is true. As a member of the official Camelot forum, I can attest to the forum failing on several occasions, and then being repaired and becoming active again.

    #2 But because they sold us their ebook, doesn't that make for a type of contract for them to deliver what we paid for? Since the book was not solved, and it did not reach its end date, we should be due a refund.

    #3 It is not so much the refund that I want, but think of all the money they made off of this, when you add all the money that they made from every single person who purchased the book. I have had enough of these hunts being scams and going under at our expense. Look at Maranatha, Scroll Quest, Stadhler's second book, and so many others. We invest our money, our time and our efforts, and these hunts end up being frauds. It really gives armchair treasure hunting a bad name.

    #4 I liked the Camelot hunt and am disappointed in its failure. I had spent a lot of time on it. It would be nice to be able to see the solution.

    I would like to know how other people feel about issues with failed hunts.

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    re: One Player's Opinion ...


    I also share GB's disappointment. This was the first major hunt that "tickled my fancy" enough for me to put serious time and effort into working out the solution.


    No, I do not want a refund of my money. Assuming that the prize fund was to be paid for/supported by the entry fee/book sales, based on the number of active players at the time the game "folded" leads me to believe the operators were still a long way from attaining their goal.


    Unfortunately, there are unscrupulous characters out there who will go to nearly any lengths to circumvent the rules. Attempts at hacking the eBook, the main software program itself, or the databases supporting it are just plain wrong --


    Personally, I hope that the operators will be able to get the package repaired and restarted, but if not, I'd like sure like to find a copy of the pages, so I could continue deciphering
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    My sadness about "Camelot":

    I was actually learning new puzzle methods, so I feel more cheated that the game is down than than not getting my money back. I do, however, understand the "x" amount of money multiplied by by "y" players conundrum. On the other hand, the art was not cheap to produce, so add 100 + plus hand-done illustrations, plus the hours of studio time doing the audio recording, attorney fees to come up with iron-clad rules, and it would be easy to add at least another 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of the prize money to the treasure.

    I agree, it gives armchair hunting a bad name when games go down. I think a way to combat this might be to start with smaller prizes, then add to the kitty in set increments as each new player pays in. Also, no token should be a bearer item -- show the work! Otherwise, there are a lot of unpleasant people who think they have the predestined right to win.

    I got some of the lesser known "Camelot" puzzles that seemed important, but the Border still leaves me con-fuddled for end-game solution.

    If nothing happens in a decent amount of time, or the towel is finally announced as formally thrown in, I will toss out where my last guess was, and why.
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    Default Treasure of Camelot SUSPENDED - for now

    Just a note -- there is a notice for all to read on the TOC website ....
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    My partial solution (in case anyone is still interested):

    Let's call the four locations Summer, Fall, Winter, and Spring - in order of their appearance in the book.
    If you draw a line between Summer and Winter and another line between Fall and Spring, the lines _won't_ intersect. But if you extend the Summer-Winter line beyond Summer it will eventually cross the Fall-Spring line. You have to be fairly precise for this to work correctly. Use the location of each church as the starting and ending points.

    It should look something like this:


    On Google Maps, zoom into the area of the intersection of the two lines and take a look at some pictures of the details of the architecture in the immediate area. Then reference back to the TOC book - if you still have a screenshot - on the page where the two characters walk past the gate that holds the "strange mix of animals".

    The combination of these two clues (the intersection of the lines and the animals in the architecture) is so distinct that it can't be coincidental - and must be part of the final solution. But I guess we'll never know.
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    Hi Buck,
    I'm still interested, so thanks for sharing. You're link didn't work, but I'll try to see what you were referring to. I'd done before, but not too precisely. So did you get a chance to drop a pin at what you found before the site went down? Regards,
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    I got another location from the "Border-Outside-the-Border" using a 5x5 based on the colors of the hanging pennants. To me, it seemed to suggest Milton Keynes, which seemed to be a logical leap since the crumpled 5x5 itself looked a bit lit the grid-map streets of Bletchley. From there, I also thought we might be looking for a cross-point--this one involving an extension of Catherine's Cross from Masquerade through the off-the-map Camelot pencil tip.

    Also, don't know if I said this before, but I got frustrated and tried taking the game at its word that it could be solved (though it was most likely the hard route) in the 20 free teaser pages. I had gotten to the point where I just didn't want to run into any more possible red herrings. That gutted my access to most of the puzzles, and most of the "distractions", even though I had bought the book. Also, I think that all of us who may have printed out copies -- even in color -- of the pages to study in our spare time may have done ourselves a disservice. This is because as the site was getting more and more attacked and we all had trouble logging on, I began to suspect what we really wanted was the *other* outer Border, where "Treasure of Camelot", Spike, and some scenes from the book were reprinted in a particular order along with the hanging pennants and the brick wall.

    For example, perhaps Spike on top looking down was always meant to point to a particular object in the first 20 pages. (All I could think of was the Boss.) And Spike inside the picture was also meant to point to the Boss. This would lead to a criss-cross on every page, where the gold discs were either hit or missed. Never had time to try it out, the site was down before I started working on that trail.

    Also, why did the discs have to be letters instead of . . . oh, let's say something like time? And, I am ashamed to say that I also assumed that they would read like the Kit William's Borders. But what if they went *deep* (Left corner-disc-page-1 to left-corner-disc-page-2) instead of around?

    Also, there was some much of my time spent on the pictures, I almost forgot (as in this post) to look at the text. Everything that involved Merlin was written in the past tense for the first 5 pages. With Ossie and Prof, it was written in the present! And we always got re-routed to an alleged "beginning" that wasn't really. Plus, there seemed to be 1 useless Boss button in the upper-left-hand-corner of every page that I had to say started making me deeply suspiciously. This game took a long time to design. Just like you needed to go to page 87 before getting to the smug "You have done well so far, now go back to the beginning" teaser instead of just tapping the corner button from the index, why should I *assume* that every page had a left-hand-corner-Boss that was gab on about the prizes?

    Sigh . . . I really still would like a complete solution!
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    I'm still firmly convinced that the final bit(s) of information necessary for the solving the TOC was embedded in the border of the various pages. Unfortunately, my copy of the pages was washed out with a computer crash, and I've been unable to reconstruct them - nor have I found any hard copy of the book ..........
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