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    Default 23 glyph street and the B68 bus

    Thinking about Gus's doodling on the second page and the narrative...

    On the top of page 2, Gus has drawn a street sign for Glyph St with a B68 bus stop indicated. B68 is a bus line in Brooklyn in NYC that runs down Coney Island Avenue. The text says Ternky Towers is at 23 Glyph St, and of course there is no Glyph Street in NYC (or in any other city, as far as I can tell), but--and this may be stretch--but the 23rd glyph in the English alphabet is W, and Avenue W and the B68 do intersect in Brooklyn. Here's a map. Google street view doesn't show anything interesting, and even if there turned out to be a Ternky Towers-like building there, I'm not sure what this would mean for us. Anyways, just thought I'd share....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yilloslime View Post
    Thinking about Gus's doodling on the second page and the narrative...

    On the top of page 2, Gus has drawn a street sign for Glyph St with a B68 bus stop indicated. B68 is a bus line in Brooklyn in NYC that runs down Coney Island Avenue. The text says Ternky Towers is at 23 Glyph St, and of course there is no Glyph Street in NYC (or in any other city, as far as I can tell), but--and this may be stretch--but the 23rd glyph in the English alphabet is W, and Avenue W and the B68 do intersect in Brooklyn. Here's a map. Google street view doesn't show anything interesting, and even if there turned out to be a Ternky Towers-like building there, I'm not sure what this would mean for us. Anyways, just thought I'd share....

    I was looking at this again and noticed that the bus line also goes by "Prospect Park"... interesting name when you are on a treasure hunt. I don't imagine there is anything there, but it caught my attention.

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    Default A clue from the text?

    Because of the recent hints emphasizing the word "change," a phrase that comes early in the text caught my eye. If this is correct (or close to it), it could narrow things down:

    Time to change out of those pajamas, Gus =
    He jots a Map of contiguous state Ah Gem

    I have been quite sure about a map on the 9th floor that shows Interstate highways crossing the New York/Pennsylvania border. If the state is contiguous to one of these states, but doesn't include a state that has already had a dig site, the options are:

    Vermont
    Massachusetts
    New Jersey
    Delaware
    West Virginia

    Ohio, Maryland and Connecticut have already had successful digs. I think we can safely rule out Delaware, unless a completely new approach to S/H/M clues, outside of the Interstate system, becomes apparent.

    If my reading of the map is correct, maybe we should include both New York and Pennsylvania in the list, since each is contiguous to the other.

    Which means the universe of possible sites is still quite enormous.

    On the 12th floor, I thought the Alchemy Machine might represent a schematic map of the U.S. When I was trying to use the map as a guide, I was assuming that the dig site would be in a state not on the map, and that the state clue would therefore be in the bedroom, kitchen or the fireplace area.

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    Default Additional hints from the text?

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    Because of the recent hints emphasizing the word "change," a phrase that comes early in the text caught my eye. If this is correct (or close to it), it could narrow things down:

    Time to change out of those pajamas, Gus =
    He jots a Map of contiguous state Ah Gem
    More possibile hints from the same page:

    I had indeed eaten the marshmallows first =
    Heads hide hints for emerald / mantles wait

    And donít just eat the marshmallows =
    State On wall / jots shm near Math Dud

    Thirteen apartments and each one of them robbed =
    Interstate a behemoth, Near damp or oft end Bench

    If I interpreted it correctly, I found the interstate hint particularly interesting. Several of the highway clues come from large things (Floors 3, 4, 6 and , several are near water (Floor 5 near a spilled teacup, Floor 8 near puddle from a leaking dish sprayer, Floor 10 lion is near pond, Floor 11 money is near water on ironing table). The bench hint would work only if bench were loosely interpreted to mean any chair.

    On some floors, I don't see the connection between the interstate solution and this clue at all. But, then again, I would not have seen the mile solution on Floor 4 so I figure the authors/artist may look at things in ways I don't always perceive.

    Similarly, the star representing the Texas clue isn't exactly "on wall," but it's good to have that example to show us how much leeway we have if we are to find the final two state solutions on the walls of Floors 9 and 12.

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    Default Head in illustrations seem to be clues about states

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorSara View Post
    a phrase that comes early in the text caught my eye. If this is correct (or close to it), it could narrow things down:

    I had indeed eaten the marshmallows first =
    Heads hide hints for emerald / mantles wait
    I had seen and posted this text clue some days ago. At the time, I thought "heads" might include literal heads (the alligator trophy on the 10th floor, for instance) but also things such as pillows and hats or helmets. Yesterday, I found a clue that hinted something about "over head," and felt I had an even clearer idea of how this clue has worked on the successfully-solved floors. See for yourself:

    Floor 1 - State clue is head-only portraits of famous Virginians.

    Floor 2 - Although the "lone star" was the clue that apparently lead to the solution, there is a small green face (= head) on the gas tank. Just above that face and to the right is a 28 in the digital readout on the device that also provided the mile 180 clue. Texas was the 28th state.

    Floor 3 - There are heads everywhere on this floor, so it's hard to narrow down a single head-related clue. Based on other solutions I'll outline here, you can take your pick of similar solutions for this floor.

    Floor 4 - From the reader's perspective, the seventh musical interval, representing the 7th state, is "over" the head shown on the side of the milk carton. So maybe that's why there is a milk carton sitting out on top of the fridge.

    Floor 5 - This is the floor that doesn't seem to fit this theory. My best guess is that the piece of furniture near the door has a head-shaped finial under the sheet. The boxes with the state clue are "over" this head, even though we can't see that it's a head. I'd love it if anyone else can come up with a better explanation.

    Floor 6 - Oh-Hi-Oh Head portraits provide state clue.

    Floor 7 - The map clue, with Indiana the only area not covered with balloons, is over the head of the clown on the sign.

    Floor 8 - This one is also tricky. My best current notion is that the five sails or five portholes on the ship represent the fifth state, and are over the head of the rubber ducky in the tub.

    Floor 10 - Alligator head provides state clue. And it is over the head of the bear rug.

    Floor 11 - George Washington's head on the dollar bill provides state clue.

    I don't see any use of wordplay for the head clues - they don't use headboards on beds, for instance. So we should focus on the literal heads. On floor 9, I suspect that the microwave head for Betamax might be a head clue. (Although Rosa's twelve-headed statue and the Darth Vader portrait on the door could be the clues.) On the 12th floor, the skull on the fireplace is the prime candidate, although the dog-shaped cloud might also provide a head clue. There are also numerous head clues in the illustration for the 13th floor - including a portrait turned on its side.

    I suspect there will be a similar theme or motif for highway and mile clues. Gus' last post mentioned flowers, towels, fowls. I believe I'm seeing a relationship between front doors of apartments and highway clues, but I don't yet feel as sure about it as these head clues.

    I hope this generates some renewed discussion.

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    Mayorsara, 5th floor does have a headboard on the bed and a few more neck scarves than usual. To speculate for 9th floor, there is a helmet at entryway and the darth vader head poster. 12th has only the skull on the hearth.

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    Gus is trying to tell us "silly rabbit, trix are for kids!".
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    B68 = Between 6 and 8, which is 7.
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