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    Jana, your write up was excellent. If I were Ron, I would not edit much, if any.
    Harobed got an offer to go to Phoenix. Did he bump someone?
    And only one silver eagle left? Chapter six and then what? Pray for book sales? Who the hell even knows about this hunt? No advertising.
    Hate to see anybody get a "beat down," but sometimes that is what is needed to move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigan View Post
    Given that all of you prior winners are still eligible to win the gold eagle, or whatever he plans to give out instead, then there is an appearance of conflict of interest. And even that appearance should have been avoided if possible. However, I would say this hunt has larger issues.
    I am sorry, but what conflict of interest? He has spoken two me on the phone maybe three times and only since I won, to say that I had won and to ask me about suitable flights etc. So I ask again - what conflict of interest?

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    I mean, just to be clear, I'm really not sure how a winner is meant to get an eagle without having some contact with Ron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigan View Post
    Given that all of you prior winners are still eligible to win the gold eagle, or whatever he plans to give out instead, then there is an appearance of conflict of interest. And even that appearance should have been avoided if possible. However, I would say this hunt has larger issues.
    This is Heather, the winner from Chapter 3. I would also like to know where the conflict of interest is? I have done absolutely nothing wrong. I have not spoken to Ron since leaving LA. I got an e-mail from his team asking me to watch the video right before it was released, and haven't heard from them since. I am a member of the Armchair group, but joined only after meeting Roger and Gisela and hearing about all of the fun they have. (I have been busy though, and rarely even read their site.) I do plan on going for the Golden Eagle, but plan on earning any prize I chase. I'm not sure what you are insinuating, but I don't appreciate it. Good-luck all with Chapter 5!

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    I said appearance of conflict. If there is still something to win - a gold eagle or whatever he planned to give instead - then you and the others still have something at stake. And I did not say "no contact". But a private internet forum where all of you chat together with the designer of the hunt when you are all still in the running for a future prize does not give the APPEARANCE of being totally aboveboard. And that should be avoided. Read what I actually said, not what you think I said. Anyway, that's the least of my issues with Ron.

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    Read my reply above. I didn't say you did anything. I'm more concerned with the lack of eagles or money to give as prizes.

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    I don't think he should have talked to me either. THAT gives the appearance of a problem. There - I accused myself.

    I will further accuse myself. When he f****** up the invisible ink clue in the last chapter I saw it before it was corrected and emailed him about it and he called me to correct it. He should not have done that.

    So get this straight - my problem is not with any of your ethics, nor am I saying you did anything wrong. My problem is with HIS ethics.

    So all of you who won silver eagles just stand down. And if you want to defend him, address the eagle deficit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigan View Post
    I said appearance of conflict. If there is still something to win - a gold eagle or whatever he planned to give instead - then you and the others still have something at stake. And I did not say "no contact". But a private internet forum where all of you chat together with the designer of the hunt when you are all still in the running for a future prize does not give the APPEARANCE of being totally aboveboard. And that should be avoided. Read what I actually said, not what you think I said. Anyway, that's the least of my issues with Ron.
    Ok, but you are talking about something that doesn't exist. There is a private board that was set up by some member of the armchair treasure hunt club to discuss some club hunts. Many of those hunts are done in teams. I couldn't join as I have historically been on opposing teams. Inevitably, those people got chatting about other hunts that weren't club hunts, including the eagle hunt. Ron Shore isn't a member of that board and never will be! He's not a member of TATHC and it's really just for club hunts and general chat about hunt stuff.

    There were 6 TATHC members until a couple of weeks ago when I was sent an invitation to join (after my eagle victory I would add). I wasn't joining to discuss the eagle hunt or anything to do with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigan View Post
    I don't think he should have talked to me either. THAT gives the appearance of a problem. There - I accused myself.

    I will further accuse myself. When he f****** up the invisible ink clue in the last chapter I saw it before it was corrected and emailed him about it and he called me to correct it. He should not have done that.

    So get this straight - my problem is not with any of your ethics, nor am I saying you did anything wrong. My problem is with HIS ethics.

    So all of you who won silver eagles just stand down. And if you want to defend him, address the eagle deficit.
    OK, I appreciate you clarifying. You did query about a conflict of interest and it was in relation to some supposed contact that I have had with Ron which hasn't happened and I just want it to be really clear. Because like Heather, if it comes to it I may want to attempt to win the gold eagle/equivalent prize. Fair and square. With no hint of wrongdoing, please! I'm not a shady person.

    I'm not here to speak for Ron, I have no idea about any of this situation I would say all of you who have been speaking directly to him about it are far better placed. But if inaccurate things are posted about contact between myself and Ron that has never happened, or private forums that Ron is part of, which don't exist, then I think it is worth clearing up.

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    I don't believe any of you who have won are shady, nor do I believe you've done anything wrong.

    Keep in mind that your gold eagle is for sale though, and I question whether he has then money as a substitute. And there we have the crux of the matter.

    And if he had been upfront and honest about that we wouldn't be where we are. He said he knew he would get some "pushback" as he called it for substituting a "prize of lesser value", and I suggested maybe he should have been prepared for that. Not prepared to stifle the questions, prepared to answer them.

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