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    Quote Originally Posted by bass021 View Post
    Thanks Lauren!

    Ace - Do you really need to wait for the response before the next submit? I thought people were submitting one per day and getting responses back on all of them after the 2 week incubation.

    Steve
    See I was never sure about that. I sent that question to the admins and got no answer back. I didn't want my answers to override the previous ones before I got a response. I'm going to send another one today and see if I get a response for both. That way I can go through my possibilities quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass021 View Post
    I've finally joined the ranks of the 240.

    Luckily, I've got about 7 hours of airport/airplane tomorrow, so that should be plenty of time to solve at least ONE silver eagle!

    Cheers,
    Steve
    Congratulations and welcome!

    Ha - that would be great if you did- although you couldn't tell us for 2 weeks! lol

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    Smile map submissions

    Steve,

    You can submit once per day for Each map.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    Steve,

    You can submit once per day for Each map.

    Good luck!
    Hi, Lauren.

    Yes, the limit is one submission by day, but some of us still have doubts about if several submissions into a 2-weeks time frame override to each other, just remainding the last one before the notification message or if instead all the submissions will be evaluated.

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    No, the submissions do not override. They will tell you which chapter on which date was submitted and say it was not correct.

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    Talking

    We've submitted maps daily and gottten a reply for each. Speaking of that- how many of us are confident in our key placement strategy? We like what we have, but have not found any hints other than in the book itself, though we keep looking.
    "We may not be first, but at least we are not last!" Meaner Simikkles RULE!

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    I have not yet submitted a key order (other than at the very beginning as a test). I have a strong suspicion that once the right method for the key-order is found, you'll almost certainly know you are correct. Of course, at the moment I have no method to speak of, so feel free to ignore me

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    Quote Originally Posted by navfish View Post
    A better question would be can the map sequences be solved at this point?. Meaning are all of the clues needed to complete a map available NOW?. Can a map be solved with only the book, the companion book and the website?. I did a back of the envelope calculation and concluded that the author needs to sell a LOT of books to cover the costs of this hunt, ie: website, publications and prizes. It would make fiscal sense not to award any prizes until the costs are met. With that in mind has anyone received a definitive answer to any of the above from the author or his employees?. I held back on this until I completed all of the chapters but now I am as baffled as the next guy. I am considering putting away all concerned with this hunt and waiting until someone actually claims an Eagle before spending anymore time on it.
    It appears navfish hit the nail on the head.

    All signs are pointing to them getting near closing this hunt down:

    - Awful book sales. No new posters here, only 600 people on facebook. There will never be a gold eagle awarded. There probably will never be a silver eagle awarded. Perhaps one if someone gets really lucky. Certainly not 2 or 12. Their sales are probably a few thousand bucks. You're nuts if you think they'll give out $100k or $1M in prizes.

    - No enewsletters in months or new clues. Looks like they're done giving new clues. Looks like they want this hunt to go away so they can invoke "not enough interest" clause and shut it down so they never have to award a prize.

    - Lots of unanswered questions on facebook.

    - Errors not posted in a timely manner.

    - Rule changes all the time. First the chapter 13 being visible only to some people now allowing multiple entries per person (to sell their remaining stock of books before they shut down?)

    - Still no documented evidence that silver eagles even exist and what they're worth.

    Looks like they made a hunt that had a flawed business plan and is way too difficult and are planning to shut it down before anyone ever wins a prize.

    No wonder this hunt is not "recommended" on tweleve.

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    I rarely respond to comments like this, but for some reason I feel the need to today.
    Still no documented evidence that silver eagles even exist

    Check out the link that is readily available on the greathunt website:
    https://www.greathunt.com/images/Winnipeg%20Free%20Press.gif
    Also, Ron brought a silver eagle to more than one public event.
    Rule changes all the time. First the chapter 13 being visible only to some people

    This was never a rule change. There was an error with the site when the contest began. It let anyone who submitted an answer for any key to view any map. Anyone who logged in, obtained a key and then clicked on the map would have seen it. Anyone. As soon as the error was reported, the site went off-line and the problem was fixed. Yes, those who tried to look at 13 1/2 in the first few days of the contest would have seen it. Those who got their book later or who didn't try to look did not. Every hunt has mistakes or unintentional errors. The fact that the author made the fix (and made it quickly) tells me that he wants the hunt to continue and be a success.
    now allowing multiple entries per person (to sell their remaining stock

    Well, yeah! This is a hunt for charity. Selling more books is basically the point. I'm sure that many people will be ordering another. Having 2 attempts means I don't have to wait another day when I have 2 theories at once. It also means they sell more books and raise more money. Seems reasonable to me.
    Awful book sales. No new posters here, only 600 people on facebook

    Just because people are not talking does not mean that they are not participating. I for one have not posted on the boards recently (or read them much) and am not a facebook-friend. I am however, actively working on it on my own.
    Looks like they're done giving new clues.

    There are plenty of clues out there. Those who have not found them are either looking in the wrong place or simply not looking hard enough. Each of the clues that have been publicly announced were available prior to their "release". This is a treasure hunt after all. The fun part is looking for the treasure. In a "real" treasure hunt the pirate is not going to draw the "X" on your map for you. I hope the author doesn't feel pressured into releasing clues faster. The best part of a hunt like this is the hunt itself.
    Errors not posted in a timely manner.

    In a hunt like this it is not always easy to release corrections. When clues and red-herrings are throughout the book, the author has to ensure that releasing corrections will not give away answers. Also, the real question is if these corrections will have any effect on the solution. If not then they are simply irrelevant. Yes, they may have sent us in the wrong direction. Many of my own theories fell apart once the list was released. Although it can be frustrating, this too is part of treasure hunting. Look at Mel Fisher. Using incorrect information and/or interpreting things incorrectly, he looked in many "wrong" spots before finding his treasure. That is the exciting part. You never know when you may find the "right" clue.


    I apologize for my rant. I have been involved with MANY hunts and won my fair share. There are always people posting that the hunt I'm in is not fair. There are always people posting that the contest I'm participating in is a scam (including ALL of the ones I have won). There are always some that say it is too hard, or too easy, or too... you name it. Most of the hunts/contests I have worked on were held by large companies. I usually keep my mouth shut because I really don't care if they sell one less cola or one less box of cereal. This time my hobby is raising money for something I believe in. This time it is not a big company trying to sell more product. If you don't want to participate then don't. If you don't want to buy a book, then don't. Your inability to solve something does not mean that there is not a solution. Your inability to see something does not mean that it is not there. Instead of complaining that the hunt is "way too difficult", maybe seek assistance in areas that you have weaknesses. Instead of crying failure on the part of the hunt, maybe try giving constructive criticism to the author. Tearing down those who are trying to do good is never productive. If you, or anyone else, has actual evidence that the hunt is collapsing or was designed unfairly then that would be a different story.


    I'm frustrated because I would hate to see this particular hunt lose interest because some are frustrated with their own progress.


    I'm sure that there are some who agree with me, and I'm equally sure that I will hear from those who do not. Best of luck to all who are still giving this hunt their efforts.


    ~Caf

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    Caffeine,

    I agree 2,000% with your reply.
    Good luck in your quest.

    Jamyphx.

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