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    I haven't looked at this in a long time--I was reviewing the optic cross clues, and there's a second, peculiar clue for Chapter 1 now:

    'Look for the jeep'.

    That's peculiar, and therefore interesting. Any ideas how it's a clue for chapter 1?

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    It ties together the eagle eye clue and the chapter 1 clues.

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    Greetings, Bookworm, from the Bayou State of Louisiana, and welcome to tweleve!

    I realize that the eagle eye clue gives us the first two numbers of the solution, but I don't understand a connection between those two numbers, 'the chapter 1 clues', and a Jeep Cherokee. Can you be more specific? What are you labelling as the 'chapter 1 clues', and how would that connect to a Jeep? I very much enjoy lateral thinking clues, but I don't see an immediate connection there.

    Thanks.

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    Hey all, popping back in to see what's up, and to give my two cents.

    For the "Look for the jeep" clue: I'm gonna suggest that it has nothing to do with the Cherokee, but has to do with the "Golden Eagle" model, which existed around 1977-1983, and then again in 2006. Maybe the years are important? Or something else about that jeep model? A bit more of a long-shot, "jeep"=4x4, which could relate to the "divided into equal parts" clue.

    Also, it seems to me like a lot of the recent clues released for Chapter 1 (in invisible ink and on Facebook/Twitter) are written backwards, so I'm leaning towards that interpretation of the "first = last" clue.
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    This is my logic related to this thread.

    The chapter one optic cross clues help validate the eagle eye clues.
    Ch1 clue 1 = "What doesn't belong?" = extraneous text within chapter = Password is part of that text = Q1
    Ch1 clue 2 = "Look for the jeep" = Model is Cherokee = Cherokees were known as indian warriors = Q20

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    My thoughts ... if this were the case, then we are all waiting on Ron to release more optic clues in order to solve Chapter 1 and it will not be contained in Chapter 1. However it is mentioned that the solve is in Chapter 1 and no clues are needed, but he is helping us with clues. Just thoughts and ideas ... t-na
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    Bookworm,

    Thanks for the response. That makes good sense to me. It also changes my mind about some ideas I've had and hugely simplifies them, both of which are never bad things.

    Two points to make:

    1. Chapter 9's story revolves around three keys: an omega key, a dove key, and a scratched-out key. However, we now have TWO chapter 1 clues dealing with this omega key.

    a. The first email clue: The ghost of Cooper past hold your omega key.
    b. The facebook illustration: A = Omega.

    Why would these chapter 1 clues be dealing with an omega key?

    2. There's no such thing as an 'optic cross'. The author made it up for his game.

    I, for one, have always thought there was more to the optic cross clues than just hints on solving a specific chapter question, and now that you've discovered a link between the two chapter one optic cross clues and the known map sequence for chapter one from the eagle eye clue, it's made simpler.

    If you can accept that 'optic' refers to EYES and 'cross' refers to an 'X'...

    ...and that EYES is equivalent to 'III'...

    What do you know of that starts with something in THIRDS and ends at an 'X'?

    OPTIC CROSS = 'EYES' 'X' = 'III' 'X' = 'THIRD' 'X'

    The fleur-de-lis and the 'X' on the treasure map.

    That may be an over-read, but I'm thinking all the optic cross clues might represent the first two steps on each respective chapter's map, which would explain the underlying purpose of having the optic cross clues in the first place.

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    There's another oddity here concerning the original invisible ink clue and the number '13'.

    Original invisible ink clue:

    'To find your way on the map keep in mind that the first...


    ...is equal to the last.'

    This clue has always put me in mind of the three keys, especially since one of the keys is scratched out and the middle section of the clue has a big blank.

    Now consider two peculiarities about the nature of the number '13'.

    1. '13' is the numerical sequence '1 - 2 - 3' with the '2' missing: '1 _ 3'. That looks awfully similar to the nature of the invisible ink clue as well as the three keys.

    2. '13' converted to Roman numerals is 'X III'. Compare this Roman numeral '13' to the invisible ink clue and it looks even more interesting: The first......is equal to the last.

    '13' = '1 _ 3' = 'X _ III'

    The first is equal to the last: 1 = X. We know that the 'X' is the 'last' of the treasure map.
    The big blank in the middle of the clue is the second part of the clue: 2 = blank.
    '....is equal to the last': 3 = III.

    I wonder if the number '13' plays a role here.

    Makes me scratch my head a bit.

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    New idea that might greatly simplify everything:

    What if the three keys were simply the first three keys of the sequence?

    From a different discussion, the invisible ink clue orders the three keys as this:

    1. Omega key first
    2. Scratched out key second
    3. Dove key third

    From the eagle eye clue (and apparently now the optic cross clue), we know the first two numbers of the chapter 1 sequence are 1, 20.

    From the facebook clue, we know that Omega = A, which is '1'.

    Two of the clues from chapter 1 that have always stuck out like a sore thumb to me are the two pseudonyms of D B Cooper:

    George Bravo
    Charles Proctor III

    What if these are the other two keys we were supposed to find and that their purpose is to give us the initial sequence of a map?

    'George Bravo' is equivalent to 'George B.' The 'B' = 2 is the flag that alerts us that this would be the second key.

    As it turns out, 'George B.' is the name of a little-known movie from 1997 starring David 'MORSE' in the title role.

    Get it?

    The 'MORSE' key in chapter 1 is question 20.

    George Bravo = George B. = MORSE = question 20. The second key would be '20'.

    Make sense?

    That's a lot simpler than anything else I've worked on before.

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    I think that at this rate the first silver eagle will be win sometime around year 2055.

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