# Thread: Chapter 1 silver eagle -- a discussion

1. Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
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Lobster, you might be right, but I hope not. The 240 questions were a great beginning to this hunt, and I'd hate to see it go the way of so many other hunts.

I think the solution mechanism is a LOT simpler than I had been proposing in the past. Without going into exhaustive discussion, this is the way I see it coming together:

Each chapter contains clues for three keys that correspond to the concepts of the omega key, scratched out key, and dove key.

a. The first key's clues will be associated with something that is 'first' and is associated with an 'X'.
b. The second key's clues will be associated with a '2' or a 'middle' or even a 'blank'.
c. The third key's clues will be associated with something that is related to a '3' or 'third'.

These three keys are the first three 'keys' of a map solution.

Having the correct order of these first three keys, we will deduce the rest of the sequence.

What I see for Chapter 1:

a. 'The ghost of Cooper past hold your omega key' is just a reference to the poem found in the chapter. I've been asked not to be specific about it, but there's something about the hidden poem in chapter 1 that is very much associated with a 'first' and an 'X' that gives you the solution that Omega = A.

The first key in chapter 1 is 'A' or '1'.

b. 'George Bravo' is the clue to the second key. Do a quick google search for 'George B.', and you'll see that it's David MORSE.

The second key in chapter 1 is MORSE, which is question 20.

c. 'Charles Proctor III' is the clue for the third key. A very famous proctor named Charles is found in comics, namely Charles Xavier or Professor 'X'. 'Charles Proctor III' is equivalent to 'X III'.

The third key in chapter 1 is X III or '13'.

From this beginning, we're to deduce the rest of the sequence.

'To find your way on the map keep in mind that the first is equal to the last'.

The next set of three numbers will begin with something equivalent to '13', and my educated guess is that it's mathematical at that point, The first three numbers 1, 20, 13 are connected by +19 and -7.

I don't have the solution, but if the author is using chapter 1 to teach us what to do, I'll bet the next number in the sequence, the fourth key, has something to do with the fact that question 4 = question 7.

This really isn't that difficult, and it's not nearly so complicated as what I've been proposing in the past.

I hope this gets us down the road.

Doc

2. Hey Doc, sounds like you have put a lot of thought into that. Let us know how it goes!

3. Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
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I see this starting to come together.

I made a small error and a big one in the post above.

1. The third key is just 'X', not 'X III'. It's Roman numeral '10'. The 'III' in the Charles Proctor III clue is just the flag to let you know the third key lies here.

The three keys read as this: 'A MORSE X', and the first three keys in the map sequence would be 1, 20, 10.

2. To derive the rest of the sequence involves the two soduku squares.

Taken from the clues in chapter 9 concerning the three keys: The three keys must be used in sequence to unlock the 'box' that reveals a letter that shows you where to go next.

I'll try to work on this over the weekend.

Doc

4. Originally Posted by bookworm660
This is my logic related to this thread.

The chapter one optic cross clues help validate the eagle eye clues.
Ch1 clue 1 = "What doesn't belong?" = extraneous text within chapter = Password is part of that text = Q1
Ch1 clue 2 = "Look for the jeep" = Model is Cherokee = Cherokees were known as indian warriors = Q20
This is certainly simple and makes sense. I'm not sure where we're supposed to find the other 18 clues though!

5. OK people, a new Facebook clue has now been posted, and guess what, this "average joe" still has diddly.

6. Interesting clue... none of the stuff team lobster has been working on fits with that clue, but it does sound a little more specific than the other clues, so perhaps it may lead to someone getting somewhere.

Doc, does this clue fit in with your theory?

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had an idea just now, just throwing it out here.

What if what we're looking for is hours of the day? Starting at the beginning of the chapter, we have "At ten o'clock", and this new clue has "12:00". My hunch is that these times refer to a clock face, and we apply to something we haven't used yet: The Archives on the website. Getting into the various months of the archives requires you to click on the different hours of a clock face. For the "12:00 high" clue, I clicked the 12 position in the archives, and the topmost (i.e. "high") article has to do with the Stigler and Charlie Brown story that was asked in Q17 of Chapter 1... so maybe key 17 appears "a little late" in the map sequence?
Since we were told to "start at the beginning", we're supposed to use "At ten o'clock" to solve the first key. So we go to "ten o'clock" in the archives. Once there, maybe we use "first is equal to the last" to mean that we use the last article in that section?

As I said, just spewing out ideas here, maybe it can help someone.

8. Something else to ponder:

Some of the articles have blue dots by their name.
Others have white dots.

Are these clues, or is this (yet another) irrelevant technical error / inconsistency?

9. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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The puzzle starts with the planet symbols under "TOOLS". That is the beginning of the hunt and if you work it out I think you will find some interesting things out. We are told to start at the beginning, and the tools page is the beginning of the hunt for questers.

10. The hunt posted another new clue on their Twitter feed, but I think recycling old clues as new clues is kind of counterproductive.

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