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And no, I hadn't noticed that.

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I'm not in the same camp. When I see a clue...and they keys are in there...i get suspicious

3. Doc, I don't understand how you created your "alternate" pig pen. Putting 3 letters into an X? Arent there 4 spots? Can you elaborate a bit more on how to construct the grid?

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Originally Posted by gizmo2337
Out of curiosity..
I want to understand the "walking through this new grid part". I don't get the pattern of walking through the grid.
Im at a point where I think I have most clues figured out, but I didn't start at the beginning

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Originally Posted by Lobster
Does anyone have any thoughts about the tap code on page 257 (Franklin)? Seems to be pretty important to something... but who knows if it's silver or gold eagle related.

Why is the message repeated?

Any ideas?
Lobster - it's an Enigma

Lauren

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Originally Posted by Doc
'Garbage in, garbage out.'

If what I'm doing is wrong, then by definition it's not possible to be any closer to solving 20 keys.

Without belaboring the individual clues that told me to do this, let me just show you what you're supposed to do with all this '3 key' business. If you perform the next two steps of this process, and you're completely convinced it's 100% random nonsense, I won't bother you with it any more.

The purpose of finding the three keys in each chapter is to generate a freemason cipher key and a string of 24 letters.

1. For chapter 1, place the letters T - E - A into the first X. Place the letters X - B - Q into the second X. Fill in the rest of the letters accordingly. The first grid should read as

C F H
J L N
P S V

Generate a string of letters by walking through this new grid starting with the letter 'H'. The string of letters that you obtain will begin as

H K N R W

Match this string of letters with their telephone keypad equivalent, such that

H - 4
K - 5
N - 6

Etc.

If the idea of these '3 keys' is nonsense, what comes out of this should likewise be garbage.

The entire last half of that string looks extremely non-garbage to me.

ESPECIALLY when you perform the next step. (This comes from V8 = JUICE, but I said I wouldn't belabor the individual clues....)

2. Generate the next freemason cipher key by placing I - C - E into the second X. Create the next string of letters starting with the letter 'I'.

What you're getting is NOT a random occurrence. If you managed to plough through it that far, I'll tell you the next step gives one the solution for keys 4 - 9 for the chapter 1 map. Something that was 'lost' shall be found, and that's the confirmer the author gave us to let us know we did that portion correctly.

Decipherers decipher, and puzzlers puzzle,

Doc

Doc,

If you feel this is still valid, I would appreciate it if you would help us put the TEA into the cipher visually somehow so we can follow your reasoning better. I for one, would not mind if you do belabor the clues, otherwise I get lost! ( pun intended)

Keep up the good work too! Even if we do not all agree to your methods, it keeps the ideas flowing.

Lauren

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Lobster - it's an Enigma

Lauren
I figured it was. Have you worked the riddle out?

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Originally Posted by Lobster
I figured it was. Have you worked the riddle out?
No, but I noticed the poem and the reference inside the cover pages of the code book.

Lauren